AK facing two re-raises, nearing money in multi
Game type: $150 rebuy on Full Tilt Poker
Stage of tourney: Rebuy period closed, moving toward money
Your image: Aggressive
Opponent’s image: Well-respected online player
Your hand: A♦K♣
The setup: You’ve got a nice stack as you move toward the money in this $150 rebuy tournament on Full Tilt. You get AK early and raise it to about 2.5x. You get one fold and the CO makes it about 3x that. The table folds to the BB, who shoves for about 14.5 total.
What’s your play?
Loading …9.9.10 / 5am
BB is clearly not afraid of a call from atleast CO, so he has to have some sort of a hand. We are decently behind if either player holds any of our cards while the other has any pocket pair. Snapfold and take a note on what CO is 3betting with, as he will be snapcalling the BB shove.
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9.9.10 / 5am
Are we behind? Perhaps. Are we getting the odds to call? Absolutely. If we’re going to fold premium starting hands we are going to have trouble getting respect for our raises. Plus since bb raise amount was less than co raise amount I believe we are safe from additional raising pf. This is a great oppty to collude with another big stack and knock out bb. Omg we might even improve our hand.
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9.9.10 / 6am
Interesting situation. I’m not looking to go broke here nearing the money with the stack that I currently have. I voted call as we are getting nearly 3-1 on our money here. I could also be calling here with AA or KK here hoping to induce a raise from the CO just to balance my raise in the times he does decide to come over the top which I don’t think he’ll do very often, obviously villian dependent. Raising just commits to much where you can’t fold if you get re-raised. I think taking a conservative line here is the optimal play. Just my two cents…
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9.9.10 / 7am
I voted Raise / Fold to Shove.
I think it’s likely we’re behind one or both, but we do have a premium drawing hand and I’d sure like to see a flop. I’d just be looking to check it down post-flop unless we hit the board huge.
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b1aze Reply:
September 9th, 2010 at 7:57 am
What are you possibly raising to that CO wouln’t be shoving over? There is nothing in our range that we should be 5bet/folding with. Ever. If you make it 40k to go, that will make the pot just over 70k, laying CO 2.3:1 odds on a call and literally pot committing him preflop, so he might as well shove over and hope for your fold, which you said you would. Making it 30k to go is just a 2x 5bet, leaving CO 3:1 odds and dropping 40% of his stack preflop, so, again, would probably just overshove. I dont ever ever ever see how you would want to 5bet/fold here, and if you are going to 5bet/call, you might as well shove to try to isolate.
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Pirate21 Reply:
September 9th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Yeah…you’re absolutely right.
When I read Raise / Fold, I was THINKING Call / Fold to a Raise.
What I meant to be saying is that I would call hoping to flop well and just check it down.
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9.9.10 / 11am
Despite the $ bubble approaching, I can’t see Hero not calling. It is unlikely we are up against AA or KK, and hand strength is likely under-estimated due to agg image.
Yes, Hero does not have a made hand, but obviously ahead of all other Ax which at least one opponent may be holding. Even against 2 pps, Hero call would be at ~3-1.
Clearly need to be careful post-flop and avoid trouble, but that should not be a deterrent to seeing a flop. Hero has constructed this image in hopes of taking advantage of a premium hand.
Raising – I don’t believe Hero is allowed, but if so I would not because big-stacked V still not priced-out. Too close to bubble to be investing chips w/o a made hand, albeit a premium.
Fold – weak imo, given the possibility that Villains have misread Hero hand strength.
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b1aze Reply:
September 9th, 2010 at 6:48 am
Do we really want to be playing AKhigh 3way with only 1PSB behind on the flop? If we flop a pair, be it A or K, are we committing the rest of our chips? Who says CO is going to want to check it down? I think that there are far too many bleh situations that can and most likely will arise if we can and do only just flat here and see a flop. Assuming CO is not trying to 3bet-steal light, and is 3betting with top 5% of hands (88+, AJs+, KQs, AKo) and BB is 4bet shoving with even tighter, (99+, AKs), our equity is only 26% which makes calling a break even play at best, which is CLEARLY not a +$ev situation to be getting into coming into the money on a rebuy bubble which are notoriously higher payouts for the bottom end (assuming we didnt spaz a ton and rebuy 5+ times). To win tournaments, Hero needs to be able to lay down premium hands when the situation itself is not premium.
Just my .02
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_CityBorn_ Reply:
September 9th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
im with you on this b1aze. almost always either a bad or a meh situation postflop. break even ev calls where youre out of position and up against multiple tough players showing strength is not the way to go. the situation as a whole is much more of a consideration than looking at just the starting hand in a vacuum.
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