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3 betting A,Qo OOP was the first mistake. The cbet was so big, it was screaming for a fold.

Why not take a cheap flop then, out-play the agg btn post flop. This line just allows him to float you.

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At this point it’s either check or all-in. V is gonna come over the top with any two pair/ set or flush, maybe top pair (KQ, KJ) for any bet that doesn’t cover our entire stack. I’d check here and fold to a bet and wait for better spot (blinds are only 3/6, it’s not worth all in with a draw). Chance of we are ahead here is almost none (he flat called the flop). Shove might looks strong here, but V is a tight aggressive player, so I don’t think we can get him to fold a premium hand by shoving.

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I would check-fold.

Against a TAG, I would have checked OTF with the over-card and hearts. With our image, I think it is unlikely we fold out this type of player oop. We also need cards to help. If the decision is to lead, a smaller bet, say 1/2 pot, will leave room to eval how to play later streets. It also saves us $ if we decide to c-f OTT.

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Yes, check/fold here.

If v fears the flush enough he’ll check back for pot control, and if the river brings another heart we can have him call a very modest bet if he has a K. It looks like he does, a TAG is not likely to float a LAG. He can also have 77-AA, A9, A5, QhJh, QhTh. Other connectors of hearts are less likely as his odds are bad to call OTF, but if he has a good read on us it’s not impossible.
V rarely has a made flush here imo and if he does, chances are he’ll still check to let us attempt a river bluff, considering our image.

If he’s willing to fire here OTT, it’s safe to say we’re behind without sufficient outs to make a profitable call.

Indeed a call pre would’ve sufficed but as played I’m all for c-betting this flop – just around 90 rather than 120.

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T Reply:
May 11th, 2011 at 7:06 am

Also JhTh in his range of course… The edit function doesn’t appear to load for me.

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Well… if we want to perpetuate our agg image, we should definitely fire again. The risk is that our image gives V reason to call light – plus the fact that he has 3x our stack so he may feel like he can afford to take the hit. A few other considerations:

- If V has nothing (unlikely IMO), we probably get a fold with another bet.

- If V does have a hand, we likely have 9-12 outs.
- If our flush hits on the river, we probably only get paid by betting now as another heart kills most action.

We’ll river a heart ~20% of the time and an ace ~6.5%. So, it would be profitable to make a small bet if we knew V wouldn’t raise.

We need V to fold to a shove about half the time to make that a profitable play and I don’t think we get that given his image.

I’m checking the turn and hoping V either checks behind or bets small. We have pot odds to call a bet of around 150 and maybe implied odds to call up to around half the pot. Anything more than that, I fold.

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general johnson jameson Reply:
May 11th, 2011 at 4:46 pm

careful there. his image means he likes to apply pressure, not spew off chips calling. i don’t think it changes much though.

no need to keep up an image here. i don’t think i’m done with the hand yet though. i’ll check here, and if he bets reasonable enough, i’m gonna call that. my A has to be good if it hits, and no doubt my hearts are. There’s a good shot my Q is good too, he could easily have JJ or TT here, if I were him I wouldn’t fold to only 1 over either.

if I’m going to call a bet I may as well make the bet, but I dont wanna get raised because I really really wanna see that river card. but if he was going to raise with anything he would have done it on the flop and not the turn, so maybe firing another shot here is okay. there’s a lot of made hands in his range we could get folds from, and certainly we could get value if he’s got like the J or T of hearts or something if we hit, and i’m quite sure our A and hearts are good, and a good chance the Q is too from how it has played out so far.

50% of the time i’ll fire here, the other 50% i’ll check/call.

also, c-bet less, woops!

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Thing that makes us way behind is that he called our 3bet Preflop. Given that he’s a TAG, and just flatted to possibly trap? I say he has AQs+/TT+?
I just can’t see how he would (even with position advantage) play marginal hands on an inflated pot vs a LAG…

If so, I probably opt for C/F and save my chips for a better situation.

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Voted check too, if he has a pair of Ks or better he’s gonna bet here (might check Q high flush, which is good for us to get a free card). If not he will just give us a free card. Betting is unlikely to get him fold. So I check hoping for a free card on the river (fold to a turn bet), and muck any river that’s not an Ace or heart.

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Pretty sure the images are mixed up…apparently we havent made ‘any noise’ yet and we are facing the ‘aggressive button’ so we must be the TAG and opponent Aggressive and not vice versa.

Therefore 3-bet OOP with AQo puts us in tricky spot…but in scenario above I think if we check turn aggresive opponent can take it away there with a bet and so we must bet represent K, hope for a heart, ace, queen or a fold

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