Daily Hand Quiz

With KK, I’d lead for $80. Appears that V has a hand that may call, perhaps 99, 88, A7, A10, letting us take one last stab. Our hand is at the top of our range and checking leaves $$ on the table. Betting small (< 1/2pot) does not extract max value.

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Mark Reply:
April 30th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

I disagree. Considering the range of hands the opponent likely has I can’t imagine him/her paying off a bet larger than half the pot. Lay a nice price and they might come along for the ride.

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samo Reply:
May 1st, 2011 at 7:51 am

The strength of our hand is disguised as most players (espec agg) are raising an over-pr before the river. The board also looks like the V may put us on a draw that missed, and Hero bet looks like we are trying to buy the pot. V still getting ~3-1 and they may be in c-c mode. Too small leaves open the possibility of a bluff from a V we have no read.

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V shuts down on the river for cheap showdown, most likely he holds a smaller pocket pair, A6, 78s or 67s. Value bet 70 might get a pair of 7 or 6 called. But I don’t like how we played on the flop/ turn. I rather raise with an overpair on flop and build up the pot earlier( given our aggressive image). Passive calling 2 streets warns V that we are strong and it’s tougher to get value on the river.

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value bet close to pot size, easy fold to a reraise

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Mr.G Reply:
April 30th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

I rather bet around half the pot and give V almost 3-1 odds to call. Save some $$ if he check raises.

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Some busted draws in V’s range as well as random 6X / 7X hands. Also smaller PPs. Trailing a few hands – 5X, 66, 77, TT, 89, 34… but I don’t think most of those would bet the whole way only to check the river.
The hands we’re ahead of seem much more likely to me.
I think this is a bit of a balance between maximizing value from the better hands vs. not folding out the weaker ones. Being that V lead out on the flop, I think it’s likely V is on the weaker end of his range – meaning I’ll bet a little less and try to tempt the weaker hands to call.
Added benefit is that when tricky V re-raises, we find out cheaper.

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Pirate21 Reply:
April 30th, 2011 at 7:27 am

BTW… I assume we have KK as in the description, not JJ as in the picture.
Doesn’t really make THAT much difference, but it’s two more hands V can have here that we’re ahead of.

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He could have a 5 that is checking, scared of the straight. Or he could have something that will pay off a small bet, like a 6. He could also have a smaller pocket pair than ours.

I dont think he is going to check raise us if we bet. Put yourself in his shoes: why would he go for a check raise when we’ve called all the way down?

I lead small, about $50.

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It seems most likely to me that v holds a high pair of his own. Drawing hands don’t have good odds to call pf.
With a good pair, say 99+, the flat pre-flop and the steal of the c-bet seems a nice way to tempt us into raising and he’d be well ahead of our range, what with our LAG image.
I’m betting about 3/4 pot here with KK, we are deep, I don’t think he’ll be able to lay down an overpair. If he does have a single six or seven, he apparently has a tendency to spew (see pf) and will often call whatever we throw at him.
With JJ I’d lean towards checking back, or maybe a blocker bet.

If we do get check/raised it’s an easy fold.

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T Reply:
May 2nd, 2011 at 4:48 pm

Wait… I notice now that the pot is calculated wrongly throughout the hand.
The pot on the flop should be 34, not 28: SB and UTG limp aren’t counted. On the turn it should be 66, and then 146 on the river.
This matters mainly for the pf as it would be a little more likely that v turns up with 55, 66, 54, 65, or 76. I would still bet with KK, but somewhat less, 80ish

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KK or JJ? Text and picture doesn’t match.

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28 or 30 in the middle? Small blind posted 2.

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If you’re going to bet you must have a plan when villain check/raises. Is villain capable of taking a tricky line with a monster hand?

If villain is a good handreader he knows hero almost always has >2 pair and will check behind alot for showndown value. Because of this I don’t expect a decent player to go for a check/raise on the river but neither will pay hero off light.

If villain is the fishy type I expect him to check/call the river almost everytime and check/raise only with hands that has hero beat.

So if villain is decent I will check behind and make a note. Against a fish I will bet about 2/3 of the pot and fold to a raise.

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