Daily Hand Quiz

Really easy one here.

He might have trips, or in the worst case a full-house (J + low kicker), but I’m not counting on it.

Time for a raise.

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Very slim chance of your opponent check the flop with a set. Most likely V has a J with good kicker, value raise to 900-1k.

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Pirate21 Reply:
April 13th, 2011 at 2:52 pm

Don’t you think top pr with a good kicker would usually raise on the flop?

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Robert Reply:
April 15th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

V could have QJ, JT or J9s. If I have KJ or AJ I’ll probably lead on the flop for about half the pot to find out where I am.

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This hand is terribly played IMO.

Was the check on the flop a check to the PF raiser to make a cbet? Cbet is unlikely unless he has something, given he has 3 opponents to chase away.

What if the turn was a heart? You have to be worried about a higher heart then.

Turn is played too passively as well. Id raise the turn. After our call, players A and D have odds to draw for a heart if they have a single high heart. Plus, I want to build a pot!

What can SB have? A single J in their hand perhaps, which is what I think is most likely. J2, J3 and J5 are all unlikely I think since he called the PF raise.
It could be pocket 3s. I think pocket 2s and pocket 5s are unlikely cus he would have bet the flop.

So I voted raise.

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Robert Reply:
April 15th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

V probably hold 99 or smaller pocket pair or a weak jack. Or he has A10,AJ with ace of hearts. Most of the time our hand is good here, I raise the river too.

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I have to donk lead here almost always. Our hand is SO weak if another heart falls that id be happy with just some chips cuz we got lucky. Id probably lead 190ish into 240 and expect to grab the pot right there. I would also do this move with just 1 big heart to “balance my range.”

I think i just call here a lot of the time(definately a leak for me). SB, unlikely, but could have a better flopped flush or turned the wheel and isn’t concerned with the flush or has a weakish JX sort of hand. I think we get value here from a lot of hands that we beat, but i certianly wouldn’t want to go broke first orbit if we are wrong.

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I voted call – The problem I have w/a raise here is that it makes no $$. There are almost no hands here that you beat that the SB will call with. If you look at it from the SB perspective, you checked the flop, only called the bet on the turn and now come alive on the river!?!? With no read (doubtful anyway after only 3 hands) the way you played it screams trap.

B1aze made a comment about not wanting to go broke this early if he’s wrong – SB is probably thinking the same thing.

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Groundhog day Reply:
April 14th, 2011 at 4:58 am

+1

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Hero has not played this hand well. It is early in the tourney, a limped pot, and we have a sm flush.

I voted to call, forgoing extra value if they have a Jx, while avoiding Js full, 3s full, or a bigger flush. Admittedly on the conservative side, but the manner that we played this hand resulted in giving us sketchy info at best as to where we stand.

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samo Reply:
April 14th, 2011 at 6:37 am

oops – not a limped pot, but a button raise … nevertheless, I still call.

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Can I vote to go back and bet flop and raise turn?
If we’re going to check-call our weak flush all the way to the river, let’s not curse the site when we get sucked out on by some idiot playing J5, J2, etc…

As played, I’m just calling here. I’m probably leaving chips on the table a significant portion of the time, but we’ve let too many hands stay in for too long. As previous posts indicate, most of what calls our raise will be bigger flushes and boats – not enough worse hands call to make it worthwhile.
Also, let’s say we raise to ~1200 and V shoves over the top… what then?

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Our line is very strange here, and it’s hard for our opponent to put us on a hand, making it more likely that we get called if he/she has JT,JQ,etc. Unless opponent is a total sicko with the Ah, we wouldn’t see any hand we beat shove over a raise here.

Our opponent’s range breaks down into: Jx, bluffs and weak hands (which will fold), and hands that beat us. We should bet if we think there are more Jx hands in opponent’s range than hands that beat us. (If we think opp folds Jx some fraction of the time, we can discount the Jx count by that fraction).

Of the relevant hands, we generally see opponent show up here with J9-AJ, or 22,33, or 55. There are quite a few more Jx than boats, so I think we have to value bet here (probably close to minbet), and fold to a raise.

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Aces n Eights Reply:
April 14th, 2011 at 4:39 am

Uh one problem – our opponent acts first. He already made a bet – our decision is whether to fold, call it or raise it.

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B Reply:
April 14th, 2011 at 9:41 am

(To clarify, we should be making a small re-raise here, and folding to a shove.)

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Very few times that we are beat here. But if I’m V and holding the nut flush (Ax of hearts), I’ll play the same way he did. Check the flop and hope someone has a good hand bets, leads the turn and river to build up the pot. Flop bet OOP looks super strong so there might be no chance of someone calling.

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as played just call river, villain does not call a reraise on the river w/ a hand that we beat imo. but he would come over the top w/ a fullhouse and he is calling w/ a higher flush, so there is no value in raising the river. hit me if i’m wrong.

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On an aside… I have $1500 in Stars. Should I be worried?

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Chris Reply:
April 17th, 2011 at 4:12 pm

lol

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