Daily Hand Quiz

Wow, we really lucked out here. We didn’t pick the greatest spot to setmine.

I remember reading somewhere that in a cash game, you shouldn’t ever fold a set less than 100 BBs deep.
Of course there may be times when it’s absolutely clear that your set isn’t going to cut it, but I’d be quite surprised if we don’t have the best hand here. The button doesn’t necessarily have a hand at all, the SB could well have 2-pr or simply be very confident about the kicker to his A. (For all we know he might have the read on the button that we lack.)

But simply call, or raise the button for his remaining $63 as well? That’s an interesting question. I chose raise, I think we see AA, 44 or 35 less often, than a call with worse.
On the other hand I like the idea of posing as a total fish, in hopes of opening up the button’s calling range. A double flat call would finish our line quite accurately in that case.

Looking forward to the other inputs.

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Brad Reply:
March 24th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

This is certainly one of the more scarier calls than I’d like to make, but call we must, as folding is out of the question.

I agree that the button is probably not our worry here…the SB is. So trying to get a line on him has me thinking he has AA, 44, or AK (possibly lower if as you point out T, he has a good read on the button). Since AA, 44 are remote odds, I’m praying for the AK or AQ. I don’t see him having 2-pr or 3-5 here as those would be difficult hands to call the pre-flop raise with (unless again…he has a solid read on the button and wants to start fighting back).

Overall, I swayed toward call (to possibly help keep the button and his A? in).

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Only hand we’re trailing that I can reasonably put SB on is 44 and that’s a tiny part of his range (AA / 35 don’t fit either player’s line very well IMO).
I think there’s a pretty good chance both players have an ace. Whether the button is calling or not probably depends more on his kicker than what we do, but I think I’d flat here so I don’t give him any extra reason to fold.
If he does come along, we’ll get the rest of it in on the turn.

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Well, we are new to the table so I can’t totally rule-out 35 if the game has been playing loose. Still, I think we are more likely facing a big A on the B and A4 in the SB. I’d flat.

On a side note, I was at a table recently where there were 3 players facing this flop in a limped pot. The three went AI OTF with hands of AA, 22, and A4. Quite sick. Usually I have the 22, however this time I sipped my cafe and watched the bloodshed.

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I’ll dumb it down for us, the odds of two players holding 1 A while 1 A is on the flop, in a 6 handed game, is less than 28%. The quiz says we just sat down without a read. I love this hand!!! (Lots of chips,pots,$ can be won playing small pairs against a big A!) Problem is of course, there is more than 1 V!!! Immediately we call if we know these jokeres play A5, A3, A4! But odds say either player could have 44. Dealio is, 1 h can really kill us, 44!!! Both V’s r raising, & truth be told, any hand in the muck has a turn-river (rr) Bigger DRAW than us!! I once heard from a millionaire pp on espn say: “It’s a small mistake to fold a winning hand, a far bigger mistake is to call with the losing hand!” I voted a reluctant call, but the odds tell us to shove or fold!!! How often do you see 3 pairs show down??? How often do you see 3 players shove all in??? Shove or fold and I change my vote to fold!!!!!!

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Pirate21 Reply:
March 24th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

Everything you say is reasonable. But, here’s the thing….
If we’re gonna fold when we flop a set on the microscopic off chance that someone has a better set…. then what the hell are we doing playing pocket 2s at all?
The only reason to play ‘em is to flop a set. Really, this is damn near the best flop we could hope for and there’s exactly one reasonable hand our opponent(s) could have that beats us. I call because I really want the 3rd opponent in there – I want as much money in the middle as possible when I win (most of the time) to balance out the few times they show up with the miracle 44 or hit some stupid runner-runner draw.

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~Beereme please

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you’d have to be REALLY REALLY sure that you’re beat to fold this one. not just a hunch, or a read.. but i mean like actually-seeing-the-hand-turned-over-sure. yes, in a nightmare world it is absolutely possible that we’re up against 44 and AA, but in terms of equity against opponents ranges, folding here would be a murder.

however, it really doesn’t matter if we call or raise here – given that one guy is already all-in and the other is going to have $60 left behind with about $1,300 in the middle, it makes no difference.

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