
Game type: No Limit tournament
Your image: None established
Stage of tourney: Within the first 5 hands
Avg stack: 3000
Misc notes:
Your hand: A♣J♥
The setup: Player E has overbet 3 of the first five hands preflop and has taken down the pot each time. This time, two people limp and he fires out another overbet. You don’t have the strongest hand but you’re starting to think he might not have the highest preflop raising standards, and there is now over 500 chips in the pot. What’s your move?
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I fold, not knowing what to do if someone squeezes.
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Agree with you Ed, in addition, based upon player E’s previous over-betting it is more than possible early limpers are trapping with a monster holding. You may be good against E’s range but during low level blinds, I instantly fold.
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Major Dude Reply:
March 22nd, 2011 at 8:26 am
+1
It’s time for Player E to meet the sheriff — but we don’t necessarily have to take on that role.
I had the exact same thought re: the UTG limper. There’s a good chance a trap is already under way. If so, let’s get out of the way and let the punishment unfold.
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So much poker to play and i would hate to end up gambling quite a % of my stack this early with AJo because we are specifically targeting player E, as is everyone else at the table. I think id look for a better spot because of the reasons above. Were going to have position on him for some time if he doesnt spew his WHOLE stack off.
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In a cash game I might be tempted, but in tourneys I don’t like to take on maniacs with marginal hands. Especially not this early.
All we really know is that we are decently ahead of his range. We don’t know if he actually has any skill. We don’t know anything about the two limpers. We shouldn’t get involved. Fold.
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What would people do with AQ/AK/99/TT here?
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T Reply:
March 22nd, 2011 at 8:16 am
I hope I’m good enough to fold those as well with the blinds this small. Two people limping in front of someone with clear maniacal tendencies? Smells icky. TT or AK may be good enough… But we’ll learn a lot by just folding and watching what happens. If the limpers fold we can start pressuring them more. If either calls or shoves it’s notetaking time.
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Rowdy Reply:
March 22nd, 2011 at 9:51 am
I’m not folding AK here. It’s too good and I want the donk’s chips! Even though it’s early I’m gambling for them here with AK.
I guess I sigh fold the others hands.
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Pirate21 Reply:
March 22nd, 2011 at 10:20 am
99, AQ- I’d probably fold this early.
TT-QQ, AK I’d call and evaluate.
KK+ raise.
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Major Dude Reply:
March 22nd, 2011 at 10:51 am
right-o.
now, suppose we call with TT/JJ/QQ/AK, and the UTG limper shoves. do we fold all four of our calling hands? stick around with any of them?
just to finish out the scenario, let’s assume utg+1 and Mr. Excitement (Player E) both fold.
I think we’re at severe risk playing on with AK or TT, and it’s borderline at best with JJ or QQ.
if there’s a second caller to a UTG shove, then TT/JJ/AK are easy folds, no? Not sure about QQ.
I’d probably play this a little tighter than you, on the belief that a UTG reraise with the goods is quite likely. But your range is plausible, too.
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Pirate21 Reply:
March 22nd, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Yeah, I’m with you. If UTG shoves, I’m folding all but KK+.
I had a couple reasons for calling the other hands:
- If the other callers don’t pop it, pot and implied odds are both very good.
- If we call, they may have pause to pop it with anything less than KK+ (our call can look strong from us, no??)
- If they do raise, it’s still pretty easy for us to get away and our stack is still fine, so I’m ok taking a little chance when I know there’s a good chance to get paid if it works out.
I have no issue with those who would play it tighter though – reasoning is sound.
I’d fold because the limpers might be trapping, as well as the fact we’re not miles ahead of the raiseer’s likely range.
I’d probably take on the raiser if he was on his own though.
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Shove or fold; only AA shouild call our shove, but too many hands beat AJ. Vs r sure to call the button’s shove esp. if there’s a rebuy/add-on, best to fold and watch!
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This is a fold. No need to join the actions with mediocre hand here. I rather call with something like small PP rather than this kind of hand.
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