
Game type: 1/2 NL cash, full ring
Your image: Very LAG
Opponent’s image: No strong read
Your hand: A♣K♦
The setup: You’ve been playing a very aggressive game preflop and on the flop at this 1/2 NL cash table online. Last hand you 3 bet a later position raiser and were forced to call with A6s when a short stack over-shoved from the blinds. You sucked out on AQ.
This hand 3 players fold and then next player makes it 3x to go. You decide to 3 bet with AK and make it $22. You get two callers behind and the action heads back to the original raiser, who now makes it $90 to go.
What’s your play with JJ? Would your answer change if you held AQ? AK?
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AK – ship it. coin flip at worst, highly unlikely he has AA or KK, if so thats cold. plus it gets those other 2 idiots out of there, wtf are they doing. however, the 2 callers makes it feel like they could easily have some of our outs, I could see a suited AJ or KQ calling in those spots given our shoddy 3 bet history. regardless we’re at literally the top of our range, and I’m not folding.
JJ – shippy. we’re losing to 3 hands, we’re at the tip top of our range, and need to get other 2 idiots out.
AQ – ugh. I may let this go, depending on my feeling. he’s much more likely to do this with AK than AJ, and AQ makes KK a stronger possibility, and unless he has JJ or worse we’re in real deep. I guess I’d probably still run with it.
note that in any decision to ship it, assume you have zero fold equity because it is unconscionable to fold any actual hand getting damn near a full 3:1 on a call against our history. also, if any of the idiots behind us actually have a hand, so be it, they were getting involved regardless of what we did.
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Nice play from D.
I’d raise with either AK or JJ here – our previous A6 suckout likely is leading to opponents calling/raising lighter than normal -especially the two left to act after us.
My raise is less about player D and more about getting the others out of the hand. Player D has something and is committed to this pot, so let’s get heads up with him and see how it goes down.
AQ is more of a toss up and probably depends on how much I’m willing to discount opponents ranges due to H’s LAG image.
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Definitely ship JJ since our risk is capped by shorter stacks. They are probably sharing outs, improving our edge (assuming no one is holding QQ+)
Fold AK. Too much action. We’re likely to be around a 40% dog here since we’re probably sharing outs against a pair, and D isnt folding with a 4 betting hand to our super laggy image if we raise. Unless he’s pulling a move, which seems unlikely.
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JJ – 100% ship.
AQ – 100% fold.
AK – I’d ship in this spot as the other players are calling lighter imo, thus not as worried about sharing outs. If our image was not so laggy (and we had not just sucked-out) I’d probably fold.
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Anyone flat and see a flop? I realize D is pretty much committed, but if we flop good, we are golden to get it in. If not, we saved ourselves 45bb.
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samo Reply:
March 16th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Perhaps if Player D was deeper. JJ against 2-3 opponents is a tough course to navigate. Only 3 hands are ahead so I think it may be best to isolate, or at least attempt to.
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Pirate21 Reply:
March 16th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Thought about that too. I just don’t like giving two more players odds to call. If it were just us and player D, I’d likely flat all 3.
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Ship with JJ and flat with AK or AQ.
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Hold ‘em is a game of Aces, if we have an A in a table of 9, there’s a ~70% chance of another player having one as well. Same odds for a K. 3 of these Jokers may have ½ of outs at worst! Any 2 cards preflop hit a pair almost 1 in 3! so look out if V & Company are playing the same cards as us, SB may have mid or low suited connectors likely to beat us.
Our real calculation is for who has mega pair pre-flop: AA, KK, QQ…:
I like to raise with JJ!!! AKsuited or AQsuited i like a call to play to the river!
AK AQ we will find another spot probably since it’s a draw…! If the other players have the statistical long shot of holding cards like ours, the pairs excel from 77′s-QQ’s, whereby we’ll be sorry to risk our stack to get cracked!! There can even be a 3-way pot if we shove!
Since we’re winning a cash game, let’s play tight while they’re loose and see what they show down.
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I’m actually folding here. He repops 4x our raise, if it’s a typical 1/2 table he’s holding KK or AA 100% of the time. This is a test to see how LAG we really are.
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