May 23, 2012

Daily Hand Quiz


Game type: Single table sit and go, NL
Your image: You knocked out two players in the first few hands
Stage of tourney: First 10 hands
Avg stack: About 1900
Misc notes:
Your hand: J♠J♣

The Setup: During the first few hands of a NL SNG you manage to go all-in twice and knock out two players. 7 opponents have $1,500 each. You have $4,500 and are under the gun.

You get dealt jacks and raise to $30 (3 times the big blind). It gets folded around to the button who reraises to $100. The blinds fold and the action is back on you. What’s your move?

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Waste_Of_Paint


As it’s so early on, I’m willing to give villain credit for a big hand here. Our 4500 stack is powerful in a SNG and I don’t want to get a third of it in preflop flipping at best.

I call here and see a flop. If it comes all unders I’ll lead the flop and see what villain does. Any overs and I’m happy to check/fold and move on.

I think there is a temptation when you have a big stack in a SNG to play more marginal situations and make risky moves. At the moment the blinds are low and the button has no need to make a move unless he has the goods. It’s better to preserve our ample stack and find better spots, and use it to apply pressure when the bubble nears. We can cruise into the money here and chip up along the way, no need to get 150BBs in preflop and risk that commanding position.

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Morat


I think BTN knows we won’t fold easily, if he saw the first two bust-out. We do not know much about how it happened though:
if both all-in was preflop, this is an easy 4bet (V might think we are lucky maniacs, but we can’t have a premium hand all the time. He might stack off light enough to make this a profitable shove)
if one or both all-ins were postflop, a call is better: see a flop, spike a J and bust the 3rd guy, since his range must be pretty narrow in this case. If we don’t hit our set be cautious, I wouldn’t go crazy on a flop of full unders, a c/c would be a good start and go from there.

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Morat Reply:

Oh, yes and voted call.

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Groundhog day


I voted raise. My preference would not be seeing a flop oop here. I think there’s a good chance v views our raise as big stack bully not strong hand. Given the info we’d actually know as noted above and the actual buy-in I cam see the case for calling too.

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Pirate21


We were fortunate enough to win a couple big hands early. Let’s not tempt fate by pressing in a situation that doesn’t call for it.
Like previous posts, I’d like to know more about the earlier hands… lacking that info, I’d err on the side of caution.
Just flat here and evaluate the flop. If flop is favorable, c/c is a nice safe line – though I might be tempted to c/r.
Ultimately, if the pot starts geting too big I’m willing to let this go unless we catch a set.

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Nelson


Easy call here to set-mine and see what happens. Who knows, maybe he’ll play it weak too and we won’t have to spend much to showdown or maybe we’ll be able to bet him off whatever he’s got. I agree with most posters – no need to get spewy just because we feel like the Capt’n.

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beermebrett


this is what being on a rush is all about, chances are we’re best! V is maniacal and banking we can’t keep it up forever and is now playing position! Well, if V shoves, V shoves, let’s raise $100 and see what V believes in… we may have to fold, but you statisticians tells us who’s best!

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T Reply:

Dear God why such a wimpy raise? He’d get 3:1 odds to call and you’ll have to play OOP, very likely with overs on the board. If he raises you all-in you will certainly have to fold, so all you’re doing is bloating the pot.

I would certainly raise all-in here if the hands we doubled up on were less-than-pretty, but if we haven’t been out of line I don’t think a lot of worse hands than ours make this play here. He clearly wants to stack us.
By calling we can stack him only when it’s appropriate (i.e. we beat his overpair). If you really want to stay true to your bullying you can always donk a wettish flop.

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beermebrett


i believe we glean more information by betting/raising, seems we make more and save more by the avoidance of calling at sit’ngos. We always want to be heads up; raising or folding will usually be our best play for sit’n'gos. If we could get down to 3 players in less than 10 minutes, well we’d be able to switch gears

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blckchip


fold. You know nothing about your op., he has seen you showdown.You rz Ut, who rrzs w. 0 v. the big stck? You are 7.5:1 under to hit a set. The best you can hope for is 55%. Why throw away your early gifts?

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Waste_Of_Paint Reply:

Lol. I hope you’re not serious.

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beermebrett


before and after my ‘wimpy’ raise i put V on KQs, beerme i’m ready ro shove!!!

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samo


I’d call. Imo, too early to get into a race for 1/3 stack. We also have implied odds to set-mine.

If V had a lower pair, I’d expect them to just call. I think we are facing 99+, AK, so willing to see a flop and evaluate from there. I’d check-fold to any ‘over’ OTF.

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beermebrett


well sit’n'gos aren’t regular poker neway– my experience on vegas strip is there are lots of off duty dealers donking themselves silly so they can go partying together later, well sometimes you just have to adapt

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_CityBorn_


there are gaping holes in this quiz. “you knocked two players out” is NOT an image. its a statement about what happened. an image would include words like “aggressive” or “loose”. next: in the description it says youve went all in twice and knocked out two players. with what hands? what was the action? THAT would be helpful information. now we have a villain reraising us. if we showed down strong, we have to give him more credit. if we’ve been playing a little looser, his range is wider. the uselessness of the descriptions in the quiz makes this difficult to answer, we have to play it in a vacuum. in that case, call and set mine, fold, or jam are ALL viable actions, and depends on what you had for lunch that day.

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Jacks


Would just call to see a flop, if you raise that means you build up a huge pot early on and risking your big stack advantage, and hard to get away with JJ. Jacks have about 50% of the time to see an overcard on the flop, and it’s very hard to play if it happens.

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