Weak pair, bloated pot, NL Cash

Game type: No limit holdem, 6 max
Your image: You have been calling a little loose
Misc notes: Your opponent seems like a fairly tight player who doesn’t raise much preflop
Your hand: 6♣7♠

Preflop: You raise UTG with an off suit connector, and the table folds to the button, who calls. The blinds both fold and you call. The flop comes a mix of good and bad:

2♣7♦10♣

… and you check. The button fires out a pot sized bet at $80 and you decide to see another card. With the pot now at $245, a 3♣ hits the turn. You consider bluffing, but decide to check and the button thinks a second before checking behind you. The river brings the 9♥.

It’s your action. There’s about $250 in the middle, and the board reads:
2♣7♦10♣3♣9♥

What’s your move?

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Waste_Of_Paint

I’ll be very interested to read other posts as i find spots like this difficult… but I would check/call here. His check behind on the turn looks like he stabbed at the flop with air and slowed down, and the 9 on the river only helps the unlikely 99. I’m putting a lot of whiffed broadway cards in his range, and he won’t call a bet but might take another stab. He might also have been setmining with 33-66 and bet the flop thinking he was ahead.

I can’t imagine he checked behind on the turn with any hand he’d want to build a pot with, ie sets and overpairs. Maybe he checked for pot control w/top pair, but it’s a small part of his range. Yes, this is check/call for me.

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Your Lies

You raised 3x utg and the player in the button calls with a tight range and his SPR (stack to pot ratio) being around 8 on the flop.

In the flop:

The important thing here I think is you have a loose calling image, so when you check he knows that if he bets you are going to call.

I dont think he has an overpair because he would have reraised preflop a good amount of times with his SPR and would have bet hard again on the turn. I dont put him on a broadway combination either once again because of your image he should have checked behind instead of betting the flop to keep the pot small.

That’s why he has probably hit the T with a hand like T9, TJ, AT or even has a pair.

Turn:

When he checks behind on the turn he either has a good hand like a set or flush or he’s throwing away the hand with a weak pair or badly played broadway. I think he should bet with anything else. He could also be playing AA with one club and decides to extract the maximum value possible but I think its risky not to bet the turn with that hand anyway.

River:

He could now have two pair, a set, a ten, 88 or overpair which would have us beat.

I wouuld check call if he makes a small bet and check fold if he makes a big bet. It may sound kind of weak but we now only beat a smaller pair or broadway hands!

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Another spot we shouldn’t be in. That we don’t fold this pre is wacky enough but why we are not betting the flop when we actually hit our shitty hand is beyond me.
Apparently though, villain is scared that we have a flush, he dodged a c/r on the turn. So bet here, we have FE. He’ll likely fold TP, maybe even 2pr. Bet at least 170.

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samo

Torn between a c/f or lead.

I think it is likely that the V hit the T OTF and bet the pot to protect. 3rd club did not agree w/them, so they checked the turn. If V is on the passive side, I’d lead to rep the flush, otherwise I’m check-folding.

Info on the V states that “they don’t raise much PF”, so I’ll put them on the passive side. Lead for $180.

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VeniceStu

Bet out 150-180 and fold to a RR. RR from a passive plyr is deadly. You tried a stupid play from EP and it didn’t work this time, you don’t want to show down 76os.

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Pirate21 Reply:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:39 am

Agreed on all counts.
I’m not opposed to a C/F either.

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Nelson

I could see check/calling a small bet because we have some showdown value. He may very well check behind. If he bets big I’m outta there. But on the other hand, if we lead for say 145 or so I think we might have a chance of getting him to fold because of the label he has. But in all honesty I really hate putting even more money into this pot with such a crappy hand.

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Morat

BTN’s check on the turn indicates that BTN (1) has something of limited showdown value (most likely), (2) gave up a bluff (less likely, the turn is an excellent scare card). We don’t have any reason to believe he’s stronger than that.
From his potential hands we beat 33-66 and AJ-AK. He can have 89, 9T-AT, 77+ that beats us. If we check and he bets we shouldn’t call IMO,since I don’t think he would make a bet with a hand we beat (unless he checked the turn with air). If we check and he checks we’re more than likely to loose.
That leaves us two options: c/f limiting damages or lead, but lead big (at least pot). If he really has something we will have to rep the flush to make him fold, and luckily the flush is more or less in line with our lame play so far. My choice from the two would depend on our history/table dynamics. If this is the first hand we played: lets fire a big bullet.

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_CityBorn_

check fold. hes got something, and we dont. dont spew huge amounts of money in dubious situations, its relatively easy to chip up steadily if you play smart.

also: fold pre and fold to the 80 flop bet if youre going to check the flop. check calling the flop only puts us in exactly this kind of situation, facing continued aggression OOP with a weak hand.

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C/F for the same reasons given by Morat. If he bets he has us beat so there’s no need to give away more money. I went against betting because I feel like we’d have to bet something close to the pot to force him off whatever he has got and it’s simply not worth the risk.

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