Daily Hand Quiz

I assume “call” actually means bet.

Limp pre???? So I misclicked then?

Anyway Bet. 5 reasons:

1. Check looks suspicious. He will expect a C-Bet
2. We can win a bigger pot by betting to try and stack him rather than check/raise and just get a little stab bet off him.
3. He could check behind and an overcard could hit the board.
4. there seem to be soooo many donks at the start of STT’s that don’t believe ANYTHING. So bet half pot or so and expect to get floated/raised a fair amount even if he has little or nothing.
5. Decent chance he has an overpair anyway, like JJ, so we want to bet into that.

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Pirate21 Reply:
January 13th, 2011 at 9:21 am

And why did some players start with 1500 chips while others got 15000? I’ve never seen that format in a SNG before….

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“You are dealt QQ UTG on the very first hand of a sit and go tournament and decide to just limp” – sigh.

Well, our hand is completely face up now, in fact we are at the bottom end of our perceived range. If we check, villain is likely checking behind and I’m not letting a free card come off. I lead for 2/3 pot and perfectly happy to take it down now.

If villain raises, I shove. If he calls I re-evaluate the turn but most probably proceed with caution – check/fold to an overcard or block bet an undercard/fold to a raise.

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Pirate21 Reply:
January 13th, 2011 at 9:19 am

Later on, I might agree that our hand is “face up”, but on the first hand of a SNG I’m not sure I’d give our opponent that much credit.
I play a lot of SNGs and it’s pretty common to see extremely questionable play on the first couple hands. I’d like to know the buy-in… if it’s fairly low, I’d say V’s range is wide open and he probably hasn’t narrowed our range down significantly.
In any event, I see no good reason to slow down here. I’d bet over half the pot – may even be a good spot for a value shove that will be called by a lot of donks.

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Waste_Of_Paint Reply:
January 13th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

Good point about the buy-in, I meant to say that as well actually… it makes a big difference.

Agree with you for sure about the questionable plays early on in SNGs (especially in low stakes) but they’re usually related to amateur betsizing, like ridiculously oversized raises or people min-raising after four people have limped. The under-the-gun limp-raise always seems to be big pairs whenever I see it. The fact this guy has made it 3x in the first place makes me give him some credit for at least knowing the basics.

The value shove idea is interesting but I reckon any hand that a donk will call a value shove with, they’d probably shove over a bet anyway.

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i voted check. my feeling on it is that if i check he’ll bet and i c/r which gets paid if he has an overpair to the board, or i take it down if hes got air. after reading the other comments though, i changed my mind. one point made the difference. its the first hand. so many players donk around the first few hands of an sng that we might be able to sell this as one of those situations and get a loose call. if an over hits the turn though, which always seems to happen, im gonna wish i c/r’ed this hand into oblivion on the flop.

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Lead strong. Trying for another slowplay is bad poker as it requires the opponent to be sub-par. (The initial slowplay wasn’t great either.) We get value from weaker pairs and nines. We charge him for draws or trying to spike an A. We get annoyed shoves a lot too that we happily call obv. Lay low for a bit after this hand.

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The old “they are so bad at sng that we should…” is not the idea of this quizzes imo.

Because that argument can be used to justify some bad plays.

But i agree 100% that the BI is a must have info for any poker quizz, as important as reads or game format.

About the play, i think a bet is mandatory, but having played QQ like this, we put ourselves in a high variance situation because we cannot ever fold this flop, even if our hand is face up and in the low end of our range.

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seriously wtf.
i ‘call’ for around 3/4 pot to charge flush draws.
I used to bet around half pot in these spots, basically the same as my normal smallish cbet size in SNGs but Ive recently started betting bigger on wet flops and found it succesful

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