Daily Hand Quiz

This feels almost like an Omaha quiz. We might well be ahead for now. But if we let this go to the river as a four-way hand (or is it five way?) we’ll almost certainly be outdrawn by someone.

The question is, can a vigorous flop bet push out all the folks with middling draws to beat us? If not, we’ve got a horrible flocking problem – no one should stick around to play us h/u — but they all can safely stay in a multiway pot.

If it’s a fourway hand (as shown in the diagram) I’m inclined to bet 60 and see if that will get a couple folds. We’re representing either top pair, a modest overpair (TT/JJ) or a strong draw. If C folds, we may end up with position vs the only caller, which would give us some shot at pot control depending on how ominous the turn and river are.

If it’s a five-way hand (as stated in the text), we’ve let too many termites into our house. I’m more inclined to check, fold to any serious strength, and get meaningfully involved only if our hand improves on the turn or river.

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We have top pair 2nd kick, and even though it was a crap hand pre flop, it doesn’t look bad to me at all right now. Unless someone has a horribly played TT+, we are good. There are simply too many cards we don’t want to see come out, and a bet should chase out those who don’t have anything going on either. I’m expecting a call probably from any quality draw, pair, or maybe even solid over cards. Either way, this is top pair, and it looks good to me.

Depending on which guy we get resistance from, I’d be quite careful. This flop is about as good as we can ask for when we get out of line with a hand like this, but its still not tough enough to handle being played back at. The blinds were probably calling any 2 cards with the price, so I’m not surprised to see 63 here if it showed up. If C reraises, believe it and get out, because he’s doing it into 2 people still to act. If it folds to BB and he does it, I’m probably going to call and see what he does on the turn and whether it bricks, over card, or completes any of those spade or middle straight draws we don’t want to see, a 2, 5, 7 or 10 would be especially bad (and most realistic).

We flopped as good as we can for this crap hand, and we went voluntarily 4 handed to a flop, so I’m going to assume my 9s are good here all day. Shoot about 65, and see what happens. If we get the pie, no biggy, we can get away.

Any kind of call is likely to be a small pair that doesn’t believe us, or a good draw. I’d be really surprised to have someone just calling with a better hand, so my plan is to play this as the lead and best hand until I get played back at, and then I’ll consider bailing.

Bet about 60-65. Maybe even 70. The problem is that literally every card that comes out isn’t going to be good for us. Any over card pair beats us, any spade, any 2, 5, 7, 10 fills straights, even the gutter balls might not be good to see, so are pairs to the board from people who flat call… ugh…. this is like, over half the entire deck. So bet hard, and see who’s got a real hand. 60-70. I honestly don’t think we will get played back at unless they have us significantly beat, as anyone with a hand of value here is going to be scared of the exact same cards that we are, and is going to protect heavily against anyone wanting to come along. So until I get played back at, I damn sure its okay to assume we’re ahead until we do.

There’s nothing wrong with playing hands like this 6 handed, just be ready to sense danger and slow it down, or to jump ship. We played this hand to flop as good as we could ask for here, now sleep in the bed we made.

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The minraise pre is just awful. Folding would’ve been best (considering position). Raising to 3-4x would make some sense as well but only if I already know the other players and know what to expect and how to exploit them if I miss or make a weak hand. Minraising a marginal hand UTG against a bunch of strangers was just terrible.

As for the flop play and other stuff – what general said. One addition: to bail or not to bail depends for me on who’s raising me. Eg. player ‘C’ should need a pretty good hand to do so with 2-3 others sitting behind him. The BB on the other hand may play back with air, thinking we cbet on a seemingly harmless flop. Semi bluffs are lurking out there as well. (This is the point where we should have more information on the others to play this hand well.) So OK, proceed cautiously, but don’t be fooled easily. TPGK is strong. Very vulnarable, but strong.

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3X preflop, bet now, not sure what the difficulty is?

K9s is a little bit loose UTG 6-max but not really a big deal if you want to play it.

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I’d lead for $60. We need to bet this flop as TT+ is unlikely. I’d slow-down if another spade hits, but continue if the turn is a brick and we are HU.

K9s 6-handed is fine imo, however agree w/other posters that the raise needs to be sized better, more than anything to balance your range.

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Like previous posts, I don’t have too much heartburn over playing K9s 6-max although I’d rather do that in better position and vs. fewer opponents – and maybe not the first hand of the session… but whatever.

Given where we are, definitely have to bet and proceed with care. Since we have no reads on the table, I’m probably more willing than normal to let this go if played back at. I don’t expect over pairs to show up often, but certainly plenty of straight/flush draws.
I’m also particularly wary of 33 or 66 since the p/f play gave great odds for setmining.

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Pirate21 Reply:
January 5th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

Here’s a question….
Why do we have $990 in front of us after we min-raised in a 5-10 game?
Did we buy in for $1010 ????
Because that seems a little weird….

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Riggs Reply:
January 5th, 2011 at 6:17 pm

Because $1010 is our lucky number silly…

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Waste_Of_Paint Reply:
January 5th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

Maybe we were on the small blind first hand, and raised and stole the big blind?

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i dont like the min raise, but k/9s is fine to play 6 handed. also not sure why this quiz even exists. if youre not going to bet when you flop top pair, 2nd kicker out of position, why are you playing poker?

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Waste_Of_Paint Reply:
January 5th, 2011 at 10:58 am

+1

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could someone please explain why a check-raise here would be a bad idea ?

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