
Game type: 6 max no limit sit and go
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Stage of tourney: First orbit
Avg stack: 1000
Misc notes:
Your hand: K♣Q♣
The Setup: Preflop, Player B raises to 4x the BB and you elect to call with your suited KQ. The button folds, the SB calls and the BB folds, putting 130 chips in the middle. The flop looks ok to you:
5♣2♣T♦
… and when the SB and Player B check, you check along. The turn isn’t the card you were hoping for:
5♣2♣T♦T♦
The SB and Player B both check again. It’s your action.
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Betting here is pretty horrible poker for quite a few reasons. The biggest one, is that our story would make no sense. There is no hand that we could have, that we wouldn’t have bet on the flop instead of taking a free card. Any small pair, or ten would have bet. I doubt anyone would (incorrectly) put us on a 2 or 5, since we cold called a 4x. Any legit hand that we could have had on the flop would have shot, instead of checking. Now another ten comes out, which changes literally nothing, and if we bet it, it isn’t going to affect much. Any pair will still come along, I’d expect almost all aces to come, especially strong aces and A3 or A4. So yeah, our story is crap, and unless these are super passive weak players we aren’t going to fold out much that is beating us, and it’s not like we’re trying to protect a hand.
Also, we have 2 overs and a flush draw, and I’d really like to not get check raised by someone who has walked into a total monster and played it terribly. Not to mention, I could easily see one of these fools having 22 or 55, and checking a 2nd time now that they’ve filled up in hopes that someone hits their draw or improves. There is nothing worse than betting and chasing a drawing to a whopping 15 outs, only to find you were drawing dead. Woops! I’d much rather make my flush, and call a river bet, instead of bet, get raised, call, make the flush, call another river bet, and find out he has fives full. Also, this has checked around twice now, even if we hit a flush we have no reason to suspect its going to make any more money.
The one concerning thing though, is B raising 4x, and then seemingly completely abandoning his hand on what I would say is a completely harmless flop. Unless he has 33, and is completely freaked about overs, I cannot imagine he thinks those cards hit anyone else, even if all he has is AK. If it comes AQJ and he gives up, ok I get that, but no one gives up when it is T52. That doesn’t make sense and my alarm goes off there.
If we were ever gonna bet, we should have done it on the flop to start a story. Instead we took a free card, and gave up any chance at having one now that a 2nd ten has shown up. It changed nothing, except possibly having us drawing dead, which is even worse shape than we were in on the flop, so I see no reason to try and fire when we’re even deeper now than we were before. Why anyone wouldn’t just take the free card here is pretty silly to me.
Check. We had our chance to bet, and we blew it. Ten has us potentially drawing dead, and B’s action is very suspicious. We won’t fold out any better hands, and I have a ton of outs that I would much rather at least see that I miss, instead of getting check raised and having to fold only wondering. It is the first orbit, what a horrible time to try and get fancy or out of line. You have 15 maybe outs, why would you not take the free card.
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“The turn isn’t the card you were hoping for”
Stupid second ten of diamonds!
I’m with the general here. Check. B is trying to slowplay something. I would actually not be surprised if he has quads here. He might also have Ax of clubs. A club on the river might spell doom for us.
If we river our flush and B checks again, raise moderately and fold if he reraises.
Should we have bet the flop? Nah. This early, stick to ABC poker.
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lol Reply:
January 5th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
lol@quads
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Tight is right early on. We’ve got a strong draw and fair showdown value. We could bet here but we don’t really need to inflate the pot. Take another free card and get to showdown.
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I would start asking some big questions because no deck has ( 2 ) 10 of diamonds.
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Check as a bet would not rep a 10, but 66-99 at best. We have outs and position – let’s see a free river.
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Push all in and then call misdeal if you lose.
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“The turn isn’t the card you were hoping for”
who will hope for another Td? lol
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