
Game type: 1/2 NL
Your image: Aggressive
Opponent’s image: Pretty quiet
Your hand: K♦K♠
The setup: You’ve been pretty aggressive at this table opening the pot with lots of raises. Your opponent has been fairly quiet but has been aggressive when involved in pots. You have about a 170BB stack at the beginning of the hand and they cover. The very last hand you raised, got called and raised (a different) opponent off their hand on the flop.
Here two players fold and your opponent makes a standard raise to $7. You re-raise to $22 with KK. Table folds around and your opponent calls. The flop is pretty nice:
8♠8♥9♠
Your opponent checks and you bet $40. They think a bit and call. The turn brings 4♦. They check again and you bet $110 into the $127 pot. Your opponent goes into the tank and then re-raises, putting you all in for $168 more. Do you call here?
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get them in there. weve been playing every hand so he thinks we are probably weak or not that strong. little does he know were at the very tip top of our range. we are wide. which means he can be wide to push us around and use his image. it wouldnt surprise me to see A9 or even a small pocket pair here. our pot size turn also seems fishy as there are no real plausible draws on the board. he saw it as weak and thinks hes caught us. woops. i cant imagine he has an 8 here in any combination of hand unless A8 he thought was strong four our range. if he has 44 or 99 well good for him. he thinks hes rubbing our face in it but our image is allowed to have a hand once in a while.
this is where wide open loose aggros make their fortune. call and ship it. expecting to see him have 66 or something similar here.
arr-in
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Of course call. Folding would be insane. It’s $168 into a $525 pot. It’s too late to fold now.
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I don’t think I could possibly fold this getting odds of 3 to 1. However, I don’t like it one bit. It’s definitely possible he’s doing this with air or a small pair as the general says, and maybe a spade draw, but I reckon he’s got the goods here a fair amount of the time. There are lots of feasible 8s as well as 44, 99 and AA that fit the action. TT-QQ would surely have made more noise by now, and I’m really doubt he’d play a 9 like this post flop.
I’m calling but it’s a mighty close decision. He’s a TAG, he’s more likely to get his chips in good than go crazy.
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Fistpump call
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6-handed one can not rule-out A8 or 87s. I think AA makes a move OTF rather than the turn. The V had implied odds to call the add’l $15 PF with broadway cards, and of course pps.
I think we are looking at a lower pp, or suited overs that the V is playing aggressively. In our favor is the fact that prior agg play/image disguise our hand strength. Nevertheless, I make a somewhat reluctant call due to the 3-1 odds.
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Puke call. Feel like TT-QQ 4bet pre, AA and TJs we’d probably hear from on the flop, and villain CRAI with small fold equity after 2 pot-sized bets. Feels like trips or better to me, but since there are so few hands that beat us that open/call vs a 3bet (A8s,89s,78s, AA, 99 and 44) villain probably shows up with something crazy (55,66,TT) one time out of four, so we have to call.
More interesting: could we have avoided this spot?
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T Reply:
December 21st, 2010 at 7:01 pm
I don’t see how. We could’ve checked back on the turn, failing to charge for a draw.
Personally I don’t see why any hand that beats us, apart maybe from 44, would check-call a flop and then check-raise a bricked turn.
IMO v thinks we have air, and he has something that beats air (pocket pair or 9x) or a decent draw (which he reasons adds enough to his fold equity to make this move +EV).
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check raise turn is the nuts, (thanks jhill), but he could think tens – queens are good,
most likely 9′s…
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I’m neither good enough or bad enough to fold here.
V may have A8, 78, 89, 99… but that’s a pretty small part of his range and of all these I can only see a TAG playing 99 this way. Other than that, I have to assume we’re good. This would be a very strange line for 44 and pretty weak for AA.
Most signs point to some kind of smaller pp or something like A9, or possibly even JTs. If we’re beat, so be it… I call and feel just fine with it
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_CityBorn_ Reply:
December 21st, 2010 at 9:54 pm
“Iām neither good enough or bad enough to fold here.”
hahaha…that actually made me laugh out loud.
also +1 to the comment
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