
Game type: $30 rebuy, Full Tilt Poker
Stage of tourney: Rebuy period closed
Your image: n/a
Opponent’s image: No read
Your hand: A♥Q♥
The setup: You’ve got a decent stack in the mid stages of this rebuy tournament when the following hand comes up.
UTG open-raises for about 20 BBs. The table folds to you on the button. What’s your play?
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My initial thought was fold. Would hate to be up against ak or to lose a coinflip or to 2 live cards … Lots of ways to lose here. AQs loses a lot of is value here. If we lose here we are down to 10 bb which is not where I to be when there are antes.
I can’t come up with a good enough reason to call (“but they were suited”) in the end so I go with my initial thought and fold.
I prob call with ak or 10s or better.
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I really doubt that villain would do this with AK, AA, KK, and risk losing a ton of value. My read puts him in a somewhat desperate mode with a pocket pair that doesn’t play well post flop. Something like 55-1010. So now if this is a correct read, the quesion is – do we want to flip? We’re not hurtin to double yet, but we don’t exactly have all day to wait either. I could go either way on this one, fold or call. I guess it would depend on how many other tournys I’ve already bombed out of that day. If I was feeling tilty or just bored I might call.
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I think fold is best. The only hand we’d be happy to see on a call is a weaker ace, and although Villain’s range might just include AJs A10s that it’s fairly unlikely for UTG shove. Much more likely to be pair or AK. I don’t really want a race in this spot for these odds. And even worse there’s a good chance I am up against AA, KK, QQ, AK. A little higher probability of KK just because I have cards from the other hands. Yes, I think it’s a fairly straightforward fold.
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At the very worst case we’ll be up against AA, KK, QQ or AK. You can rule out the first three because, by what Nelson said, it is more profitable for the villian not to shove in that spot.
Perhaps were at a race against 22-JJ
Perhaps were even ahead against a weaker ace or two face cards.
Since a shove from UTG (or early position) typically means they want to end the hand right there. I think calling is justified here because rarely will we be in bad shape and a majority of the time we will be at a coin flip or good shape.
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Major Dude Reply:
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:44 am
Count me in the fold camp on this one. Against a medium PP (most likely), we’re a slight dog at 48/52 or so. The pot odds just barely compensate.
In a cash game, or before the rebuy is over, we might want to gamble two-thirds of our stack on a very thin edge like that. But in a tournament where we’ve got an M of 14 or so, there’s still plenty of time to wait for something better. We’ve also got a big enough stack to push other people off their hands in murky situations – and there’s no reason to risk crippling ourselves in a race when we may be able to take down some uncontested pots in the next few orbits.
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Fold. Simply because there are big chances of a coin flip. And there’s no need for coin flips for such a big part of your stack in that stage.
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Fold! I see there’s a 50/50 split on the vote but not a lot of call comments, all in UTG means JJ’s or Q’s maybe 10′s maybe A-K etc but we’re racing or dead and why do that. If he has AA’s or KK’s he should limp and AllIn to a raise.
A weak A’s should fold here or see a flop cheap but he’s not a small medium stack because he’s been crushing the table today so if you think you know what he has you could be very wrong.
Fold and live to play another day.
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