
Game type: Satellite
Stage of tourney: Early
Your image: Tight
Opponent’s image: Winning regular
Your hand: Q♦Q♥
The setup: You haven’t been involved in much but have bled off a few chips in this larger buy in satellite when the following hand comes up. You get QQ in the SB. UTG opens for 3x and a EP player calls. It folds around to you and you raise to 480 total.
UTG thinks a bit and then shoves; the caller folds.
What’s your play?
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Hero reraise could look like a squeeze. V is relatively short. As is H. V is prob not going to risk scaring you off if they have aces. H is slightly ahead of ak. H is way behind kk. H is ahead of every other hand. V could have any pp. Call.
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Rowdy Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 5:32 am
I agree with you on the call but not on the analysis.
He’s not short – it’s early in the tourney, and why would he shove any PP after you’ve reraised 20% of your stack early? Surely he has to put you on a big hand. Also I would expect him to shove AA – You’ve repped enough strength for him to think you’ll call plus he picks up a decent pot if you fold anyway.
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Yes, this is a super standard call.
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As so often happens with these quizzes, we aren’t given enough information with villain’s image. I want more than ‘winning regular’, is he tight, loose, passive, aggressive etc.
There are precious few players I would lay down QQ to in this spot. Unless we’re up against a supernit, I am calling this all day long.
This smells more like TT/JJ to me than the dreaded AA/KK – our re-raise puts such a hand to a shove-or-fold decision, as villain won’t want to price in the UTG+1 caller to a three-way flop. If we do run into AA or KK I consider it a cooler, and if it’s AK then I’m happy to flip given how much we’ve already put in.
Call, call and call.
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I probably call because of the pot odds and the fact it’s a tourney where I like to gamble a bit to get a try and get a big stack.
I can’t say I’m overly enthusiastic about it though, as I can’t see a winning player pushing light this early.
If it were a smaller game – 1 or 2 tables I would fold. A winning player is rarely turning up with JJ or worse in a STT.
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This exact thing happened to me this very morning except I was holding KK. I call and the guy shows 56s and promptly sucks out on me.
Moral: Even when you are way ahead the edge is not invincible. I’m calling here. Even if he’s got kings or aces I’m not *that* far behind and you have to double up a few times if you want to win a tourney.
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im not good enough to fold this.
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samo Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 7:58 am
I’m not good enough to call this.
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This is a good quiz because this situation comes up fairly often. My answer might be different if this was live play. Physical tells might be very useful in this spot. But online its kind of a crapshoot. I guess you either fall into the crowd that wants to build a big stack early/bust early or the crowd that wants to play it a little safer and try to make a cautious, calculated deep run. I can see the positives with either play. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the villain show up here with AA,AK,KK,AQ, but I also wouldn’t be surprised to see him showing up with a smaller pocket pair either since he is a “winning player”. Really hard to tell. I kinda believe he is really strong just because of his description. He knows that it is really early and he is still willing to put his whole stack in. I really don’t know what I would do. If this was a cheaper buyin, such as 5 or 10 bucks I’d probably call. But with a higher buyin of 50 or 100 bucks or more I might fold.
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QQ is the bottom of my calling range here, but I’d need a pretty good read on V to fold. “Winning Regular” isn’t much to go on… I think it’s too early to assume he’s being creative with a mediocre hand so I give him credit for something real – at least 88+, AK (weighted towards TT-KK, AKs).
Bottom line: there are only two possible hands ahead of ours so chances are good that we’re ahead. I’ll take my chances and hope for the best.
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Pirate21 Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 8:40 am
* What really happened*
H called.
V turned over A9o and flopped A-A-9.
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Nelson Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Of course, happens every time. Just like it totally feels like every frickin time you have pocket kings you see an ace on the damn flop…
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Hero image described as “tight” so I am leaning toward TP rather than TAG.
Putting myself in the V spot, I’d eliminate AK as tight Hero would likely flat that hand and evaluate a flop at 3-1. With AK eliminated, I’d say V would have to place Hero on JJ+ based on SB 3-bet against UTG raiser and another caller. Sure we could be up against AK, however early in a big buy-in satty do we take the risk? Perhaps on the nitty side, but I’d fold based on Hero image and narrow range V puts us on.
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lolmore Reply:
October 27th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
lol wtf? who flats AK pre these days?
unless your deep ofc…
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Groundhog day
10.27.10 / 3am
Hero reraise could look like a squeeze. V is relatively short. As is H. V is prob not going to risk scaring you off if they have aces. H is slightly ahead of ak. H is way behind kk. H is ahead of every other hand. V could have any pp. Call.
?? I’d think ‘villain’ would assume that Hero is calling after putting in ~25% of their stack.. & there would assume that AA could easily be part of their range here.
As far as them bein’ ‘short’? V is near 60bb’s deep & H is 50bb’s deep.
Being that it’s a satty… we could fold with an obv. playable stack of close to 40bb’s and because of it being a satty, we don’t necessarily need or want to be getting it in here… also I highly doubt that Villain’s range would ever be less than JJ+. BUT even if V’s range is QQ+,AKo I still think it’s a call here. The only reason I’d consider ‘fold’ is because it’s a satellite… if MTT than I’d be callilng here. (I think from a cEV standpoint we’re getting 1.75to1 here & would need ~36%eq & with QQ I believe we’d have closer to 40%).
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