May 22, 2012

Daily Hand Quiz

DailyHandQuiz

Game type: 1/2 NL Cash on Full Tilt
Your image: Aggressive
Opponent’s image: No strong read
Your hand: T♦T♣

The setup: You’ve picked up a few chips by playing strong, but you haven’t gone to any showdowns yet. You’re raising about 25% of hands preflop this session.

You haven’t had a confrontation with your opponent in this hand yet. Here, you’re dealt TT in the CO. The first two players to act fold, and you raise to $7. The button and SB fold and the BB calls. You flop safe:

2♦9♠Q♣

The BB checks and you bet $12 into $15, within your standard continuation bet size range this session. Now the BB check raises you to $30 total.

What’s your play?

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10 COMMENTS  (Jump to comment form)

John Kugelman


Raising is a crazy option. That’s turning our hand into a bluff. With no history of extreme aggression between us and the BB it doesn’t make sense to 3-bet the flop for value.

Calling seems reasonable now, but think through the rest of the hand. If we call now we have to be prepared to call two more barrels. There’s no way we’re getting to showdown for only $18 more. Are we prepared to call off most of our stack trying to pick off a bluff? We don’t have a read on the villain and there’s no history to suggest that he could simply be playing back. In the absence of information I see no reason to get stubborn.

Folding is the prudent play.

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Groundhog day


I have a hard time folding here as I feel like we would be encouraging more rr against our cbets even tho calling may not be math justified. I call but unless I pick up a draw or set I am folding to continued pressure.

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Nelson


I call and hope to hit a set or straight draw – hopefully open ended. But if the turn blanks I’m not putting any more money in.

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samo


I believe that the V would have 3-bet PF with JJ+ and AQ+, so not convinced that the flop hit them. If they had 99 wouldn’t they wait another street? I think they are playing back at an agg opponent, or testing to see where 88/77 stand. Certainly could be wrong, but think our hand is best. Hero is getting >3-1 to call and only A/K would be scary.

I’d call for pot control. Raising does the opposite, although the advantage of seeing a “free” turn is there. If there had been some tighter history, might lean toward folding however I think this would be somewhat conservative given our image.

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Major Dude


Maybe we don’t have a read on Villain — but Villain sure has a read on us. If we’ve been open-raising 25% of hands, that means we’ve been getting frisky with the likes of K8s; KJo; 66, A7s, etc.

Villain doesn’t take our c-bet seriously at all. He could be launching his C/R with a few hands that are way ahead (kQ; QJ; Q9), with a few hands that are behind but not hopeless draws (A9; TJ), and with hands that we clearly beat (88/77/66/AJ etc.)

My guess is that we’re probably still ahead here. Maybe a 60% to 70% chance. The trouble is, our implied odds are awful and we have to put a ton of chips to work to know for sure. If we crank up the volume now, Villain only joins in if he crushes us. What we’d really like is to call the flop c/r and get to the river cheaply. But if Villain reads us as weak, that may not happen. I think a call here leaves a big risk that we’re pushed off the turn without knowing anything more than we do now.

My big issue is that we ramped up the pot too fast, given what our table image was. We’ve been the table bully and people are looking for a chance to play back against us. With a hand like TT, we need to start out with a better strategy for managing pot size and the effectiveness of our aggression if resistance arises. Open-raise to 5 instead of 7. C/bet 50% the pot on a dry flop instead of 80%.

That way, if Villain check raises us (likely!), we can re-raise Villain for (assumed) value . . . and try to take down the pot with a sane amount of aggression. We also could run away with most of our chips if Villain 4-bets.

We let this pot get too big, thinking it would let us steam-roller opponents one more time. That didn’t work. Now we’ve got to risk a ton of chips in hopes of winning this war of nerves.

As played, I’m narrowly picking raise over fold – but not liking it. Call seems like the worst of both worlds.

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yap


If we call now, what would we do on turn/river, it’s unlikely we improve and he can easily double barrel after seeing weakness on flop on this board. If we call now then we still need to raise in later streets to win the hand, while giving him a good chance to improve if he is not already ahead. I doubt he would flat AQ pre, but KQ,QJ and set of course are still in the hat so is a bluff or semi-bluff given he probably doesn’t beleive us, because of our image so raise/fold with a normal sized bet and find out. I agree with the above poster that the hand is already costing too much as played.

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pkrbadgirl


EZ fold….10′s is always dodgy hand, almost guaranteed overcards. Fair enough, they could be rr on a bluff/semi-bluff, but you have asked the question n got your answer – people forget that sometimes it’s OK to fold the best hand and say, ‘hey, if that was a bluff, wp, u can always save him for later. Show the 10′s if you can, your image shoots up. So much fe here, not even worth it. Only time I do anything else here is if I have a very good read on my opponent, or if I have a very tight image and believe opponent will believe I have something better than the q.

;)

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blacksworn


at this point …the most sane option is to raise to 90.. calling will show weakness …. da opponent most probably is bluffing but probably have high card like AK.

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teddy


fold and give him credit for the AQ,KQ,QJ,or Q10.

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_CityBorn_


Folding is the best option. The downside is it hurts our image, and you can’t show when you fold online so it will def encourage aggression against us. Unfortunately none of the other options are better. Calling means we spew some chips before eventually folding, and raising is exactly what you don’t want to do in a cash game in this spot. See, the idea is to use image and history to capitalize when opponents make mistakes, not shove tons of chips in with an already aggressive image, not a great hand, and no read on opponents.

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