
Game type: $25 buy in tournament, PokerStars
Stage of tourney: Early
Your image: Aggressive
Opponent’s image: No strong read
Your hand: 8♣7♣
The setup: You’re playing a very deep stack early on in this $25. This hand, the table folds to you on the button and you raise to 3x. The blinds both call and you flop the ace high flush:
4♣6♣5♣
The blinds both check and you bet 350. The SB calls and the BB check-raises to 700.
What’s your play?
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Raise.
The BB just c/r a bet and a call. He’s willing to dance. The board is superwet so V can have any kind of combo or made hand. Not to mention that low-byin minraise generally means a hand that V considers the nuts.
We’re very deep and we want more money in to get his stack. No point in slowplaying now. Raise to like 2k. Let him draw to a dead flush.
A call might keep SB in the game, but we’ll loose him soon if he’s not strong enough, probably on the turn. If he’s strong, he’ll come along anyway.
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The question is way screwed up again! Title says we flop a straight, blurb says we flop an ace high flush, shown cards say we flopped a straight flush
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Call. If bb has ace high flush you will double up either way. But if bb is bluffing you may lose them by reraising.
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b1aze Reply:
September 23rd, 2010 at 5:06 am
This. Although a flatcall can sometimes look stronger than a raise to some players, you really don’t want to fold out his bluffing range, and that is all you will be doing by bumping it up here. The question here is how do you extract the most value. The min-check-raise is a double-edged sword to me, where it looks like V wants a call or is trying to steal your whiffed cbet light. It really depends on V and if the min-raise is standard or not. In any case, being the flopped straight, flopped nut flush, or flopped straight flush, there realy isn’t a whole lot that will scare us from getting it in on later streets, assuming V is willing to punt his stack, aside from the board pairing for potential boats vs the straight or flush.
Thinking this over again though, i think any action besides a fold is going to “fold out” all of V’s bluffing range. If V was literally firing back at us with complete air, i dont see how V could possibly try to fire another shell if we just flat his raise. I think we make it 1600 to go back at him, giving him ~2.8:1 on his call and see what he does. If hes willing to get it in, snapcall aniec.
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T Reply:
September 23rd, 2010 at 5:11 am
aniec?
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b1aze Reply:
September 23rd, 2010 at 9:22 am
and its not even close.
Waste_of_Paint Reply:
September 23rd, 2010 at 11:59 am
Shouldn’t it be ainec then?
Anonymous Reply:
September 23rd, 2010 at 2:49 pm
That would explain why google didn’t help me there
If we do have the SF, we should definitely just call, we want the SB to tag along as long as possible and there aren’t many cards that can kill the action.
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Assuming the picture is right and we’ve flopped the SF, I think we need to flat. It’s not as effective online as live, but I’m going to do my best to appear like I’m agonizing over the decision – then I check any turn and hope V continues to fire.
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We flopped the absolute nuts here and I’m looking for the SB to come along for the ride. No reason to raise here and shut him out. We’re in position so I can expect V to bet the turn and we can raise looking to get it in right there or set up a pot sized shove on the river.
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I’m with the flatters. Let’s get another 350 from the SB while allowing both players to see more cards. Hope for another club and the board to pair.
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Waste_of_Paint Reply:
September 23rd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Hope for another club AND the board to pair? Wishful thinking…
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samo Reply:
September 23rd, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Yeah … dreaming a bit.
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I was confused by the picture also.
If we did flop the SF then I’m smooth calling and hoping he will continue to fire out of position. I agree that if he’s raising w/ nothing he’ll likely fold to any raise. Even the smooth call might shut him down totally. If he’s got an A high flush, we are probably going to take the majority of his stack.
If we only flopped an 8 high straight (like the title says), then the situation is really tricky. I might make a pot sized bet hoping to take it down now, but I would think any push by the V after that would indicate a made flush. If he were really aggressive it might mean a flopped set where he’s trying to push you off a draw, or a semi-bluff with the Ac.
I guess if he plays back at me after a pot sized bet with my straight, I’d throw it away looking for a better spot.
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