Daily Hand Quiz

I would get it in if I’m tilted or something, otherwise it seems like a clear fold to me. I would just hope to get it in in a better spot the next orbit or two.

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T Reply:
September 17th, 2010 at 3:46 am

Agreed. Our call will be considered dead money, prices in A and B and our hand is hardly ever going to hold up in a 4-way. Best case, player A successfully shoves to isolate, and we’re simply crushed by AK, AA, KK or QQ.

Kamikaze yes, suicide no. Starting next hand we have position again for a while and can open shove J2o with still decent fold equity and about 35% to win against a hand that takes us HU.

I call here with AA and KK, nothing else.

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I call here. Maybe I play at too low a level but it seems like short stack late position shoves don’t often get much respect. I almost want to play this draw heavy hand against multiple opponents so that does not dissuade me here.

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There is no such thing as pricing in A and B here. A isn’t calling a 13x bb re-raise ever. He’s either shoving AA/KK or he’s likely folding, especially IF you come along. Meanwhile B is just waiting for it to be his turn to act again so he can fold.

You’re almost always going to be running AQs heads up in this spot, you’re desperately short with 10x bbs, AQs is usually at worst a 3:1 dog, and of course there’s the extra juice in the pot from the initial raiser and the dead money in seat B.

Need I give any more reasons for this being an fairly standard auto call?

I understand you’re possibly facing AK/QQ+ and you’re in bad shape. What I’m saying is that with that hand, that pot, and that stack, I’m not sure you can fold and still honestly say you’re playing to win.

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T Reply:
September 17th, 2010 at 7:18 am

How are you so confident that player A will fold? What range do you suppose he has, raising UTG?
We’re not playing to win if we fold AQ here, but he is if he folds JJ here? He’ll assume B isn’t coming over the top. He’s getting 3:1 on a call. He knows C is an aggressive player, his range is wider than usual.

And B has a drawing hand, he may fold but may also well consider himself in setmining paradise if A calls.

You’re free to disagree but for me short-stack play is about finding good spots rather than getting good cards. Here the spot sucks immensely and the cards aren’t even that good. You have time to pick something better.

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samo Reply:
September 17th, 2010 at 9:23 am

I think odds to call may be more of a consideration in a cash game, whereas survival is utmost in a tourney.

We have a very agg player(C) and two oop players raising PF from EP. This is a 1K tourney, so while there are no images given for Players A and B, I think we need to assume they are fairly good. I think at least one of them has a premium hand. Then we throw C into the fray. At a minimum, I can see KK or AK (or both) popping-up here.

Point is that 3-1 in a multi-player pot is not enough of a factor to risk tourney life.

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I’d fold. Action from 3 EP indicates Hero is behind. Hero still has ~11bb to play, so there is time to wait for a better spot.

I’d call w/99+, AK.

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Given the potential dead money in the pot, you are 3:1 vs KK and under and AK. Drawing pretty nasy vs AA is the only time you really aren’t getting decent odds to call. I think given your stack and the early-ish stages of the tournament, you are going to need to make a play, and this is probably the best case youre gonna see for a while. Call and be happy about it.

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So do we have TT or AQs? The question says we have both, but unless we’re playing PLO, I doubt it.

Anyway, I’d auto call with either. The 3-bettor is aggressive and has a very comfortable chip stack. Yes, he could have QQ+ or AK, but with his stack and tendencies, I’d also add 99+, AJ+ and maybe some random crap if he’s feeling especially frisky. The pot odds are there and then some, even if the reraiser is tight. This is a great spot to possible double up and then some. Take it.

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I’d rather fold, get the button, and look for a spot to push in the next orbit or two. Hell, any two cards would appeal to me more being the first one in than getting involved in this mess now.

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We’re clearly behind at least 1, possibly 2 players and quite possibly with less than 20% chance of catching up.
If it were late in the tourney I would take this chance, but at this point I’m not feeling desperate so I’ll pass.

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Anybody else have there vote selected for them? I’m not sure if I have seen this quiz like last year or something but many quizzes already have my vote(fold, call, raise) already selected.
Anyway, I folded the first time and would probably do the same again.

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T Reply:
September 18th, 2010 at 3:10 am

Yes I have that problem as well! Really annoying, most of the time it’s an answer I don’t agree with

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