Daily Hand Quiz

We have zero reads, so that makes this basically ABC. Folding is outrageous. Limping is pointless, because we aren’t going to fold to a raise out of the blinds. Which means we should just raise this ourselves and apply the pressure. We’d like to see 2 folds here, but if we get a call that’s ok. It will most likely be heads up with position so that is fine. If we get 3 bet, we gotta fold. We have zero reads, we have to give credit. Plus calling the 3 bet will make a pot larger than our stacks. Which almost means we should be 4 betting all-in, which would be foolish with just a pair of 5s and no read. Invest 3x to apply pressure, be ok with a call if we get it but keep pot small, and fold to a 3 bet. If we get the folds great. If not, oh well. Not all situations need to have flashy plan B and C. In this case they aren’t glamorous, but they’ll keep us out of trouble.

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Raise 2-3x, but what we should do when reraised depends largely on reads AND our own image. If the reraiser is very nitty and hasn’t defended a lot, just fold.

If however we suspect we get played back at by a large range of which we are currently ahead, we may even consider coming over the top.
Our hand plays shitty post-flop if we don’t hit our trips (which is 90% of the time I believe), so if we are going to call a reraise, we need a plan. The reraiser is likely to c-bet most flops. Can we reraise then and expect a fold?

This is all very image-dependent and those are omitted from the question, and there is no option to 4-bet, so I refrained from voting.

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Agree that we raise here. It may look like a steal attempt so v may come back over the top light so I think we have to call a rr. I am assuming that puts us all in. If not I think we 4 bet it. A lot of if but if we are not willing to play marginal hands then the antes will eat us alive.

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I raise and what I do when got 3bet depends on WHO 3bets to HOW MUCH. (I would lean on reads more, but since there are no reads…)

Eg. if BB reshoves it’s a clear call: he’s got optimal stack size to resteal and could do it w/ any pair, any ace, better kings, or even ATC. We’re around 50% against that range so it’s a clear call, and if we loose, we still have a chance to rebuild our stack.

On the other hand, if we raise to 2.5k and BB raises to 5k it’s almost instafold to me – it’s like begging for a call and we don’t get setmining odds.

I also raise/fold if SB comes over the top. I might consider calling if he shoves, but there’s too much chance that we run into a 66 vs 55 which would be a pretty stupid way to end this tourney.

I can see reasons for a general raise/call as well, but in that case open-shoving is better: we (hopefully) don’t do that often enough to telegraph our hand, and we can maximize FE that way – after all we’d rather take the blinds without fight, but if we’re ready to make the call why not push instead?

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samo Reply:
September 14th, 2010 at 9:59 am

agree.

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Isn’t this a simple sit n go wizard formula? I’ve never used that tool (I’m a cash game player nearly 100%), but it seems like this is a “plug into the tool” and it will tell you what to do.

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I don’t see as much support for shoving as I expected. I’m not generally a fan of the PFAI, but I think this is a situation where it makes sense. We all seem to agree that we don’t want to play 55 post flop and there’s a good chance that an intermediate sized raise will get played back at — if we shove, we take away maeuverability from the blinds. Since we have both covered, they’ll need to wake up with premium hands to call.
The argument the other way would be that we don’t want to risk most of our stack when we can’t define our opponents hands, but what are they calling with? Obviously they’ll call with QQ+. We likely fold out 66-88 and could even get folds from 99-JJ. Most importantly, we probably fold out most hands we are flipping with.
I certainly wouldn’t shove this every time, but I think I would a fair amount.

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I voted shove here too, and largely for the same reasons as Pirate already pointed out. 55 is a sucky hand to play postflop game with those stacks – not much room to maneuver.

In particular, I want to shove here to take away BB-s resteal all-in move, which would likely end with us flipping for what is more than half of our stack. Our all in, as Pirate already observed, will force a fold from many hands that would shove into our 2.5x opening raise.

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ZZZZ

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T Reply:
September 16th, 2010 at 4:32 am

True that

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