
Game type: $50 freezeout, Full Tilt Poker
Stage of tourney: Mid stage
Your image: TAG
Opponent’s image: No read
Your hand: A♣7♣
The setup: You’ve got a shrinking stack in this freezeout. This hand you limp the CO after the hijack limps. The button folds and the blinds call / check. You flop top pair:
7♥6♥3♣
The table checks to you; you bet 575. The SB folds and the BB checkraises to 1875. The limper folds. The action is on you.
What’s your play?
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I’d fold. We have nothing going for this hand other than a weak top/top, and we are essentially all in this hand if we call this. If he has a heart draw and overs, he is drawing to 15 outs which makes him almost the favorite. We only played A7s for 1 reason, and we didn’t get a quality draw. If he has 2 pair we are drawing to 5 outs, and if he has a set we are virtually drawing dead. If we think he is on a draw, we could call, and ship the turn if it misses. If he has a made hand, we are crushed because he isn’t doing this with just a pair of 7s. Whatever he has, he is trying to end it right now. Smells like 2 pair/ overs + flush draw. More so a draw, because he was willing to take a free card, and I think 2 pair would bet to protect. And again, if we call this, we are basically committed to the hand. The pot will be bigger than our stack, and if the turn bricks we will have to ship the turn to protect. All while dodging most likely 15 outs. I haven’t even mentioned yet that if he has 45 we are drawing to 1 out (runner runner). This is getting uglier and uglier.
Look, you don’t limp Ace rag to hit the rag and keep going with it. We had our plan A for this suited Ax hand, we didn’t get anything to work with, we went with a weaker plan B and took a last position stab, we got a pie thrown in our face, let’s bail now instead of embarrassing ourselves trying for a plan C. I mean we are getting away from a pair of 7s against a no-read opponent. Is that really too hard?
Fold.
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T Reply:
August 31st, 2010 at 1:08 am
I agree completely, especially since BB can have ATC. Even if it’s a bluff, big deal. If we continue with this hand it is probably going to be for our tournament life and somehow I don’t think a pair of 7s warrants that kind of investment.
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Major Dude Reply:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Agreed.
Hero lately is making a lot of dodgy preflop decisions. To me, this is a raise-or-fold hand preflop. If we raise PF, we can isolate vs. limper, representing strength. That gives us a hope of bullying our way into this pot with aggressive postflop play.
But if we let the blinds play essentially for free, which is what we’ve done, there are just too many ways for our weak Ace to get clobbered in four-way action. SB’s c/r, facing two possible bettors, sure smells like we’ve stumbled into one of them.
If we’d raised (or folded) PF, we might not be in this bind.
In general, hero is playing preflop too passively or occasionally with a mad desire to 4-bet with a middling pair. We keep scrambling to come up with defensible post-flop strategies on hands that have been unnecessarily backed into a corner.
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Pirate21 Reply:
August 31st, 2010 at 12:08 pm
No doubt you’re correct…but the quizzes are boring if H played everything right on the earlier streets
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Definitely i would fold.
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Pie in the face. Classic.
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Raise pre. Fold now. HJ limper will almost always fold and we get the BB to have to make a statement about the strength of his hand, unlike now. Limps are usually dead money and we would have pulled in t600 if we got the table to fold preflop, adding just over 10% to our stack.
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Fold pre. W/ stacks of 20BBs or less we are looking for opportunities to reshove all-in. In this case, I might even consider just jamming preflop. But folding seems like the more conservative route which I would take, especially in a full tilt tournament w/ a good structure.
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I’m not sure why ‘fold’ is not a voting option, clearly there are many supporters.
I’ll call as I’m not convinced the V has a monster. In a limped pot, I think a flopped 2-pr or bottom set is leading, hoping to get by raised by overs/draw, whereby they would 3-bet AI. If V has 54, well that’s quite a lucky flop. 66 may raise p/f HU oop. Since we have a 7, I’d discount 77 for the V.
I’m tipping the scales of the V range more towards the draws. They could have 15 outs, which makes the Hero a 3-2 dog. Still, if we can fade one more card, Hero becomes a big fav heading to the river.
Hero has tp/tk, potential 8 outs if the V does have 2-pr, and backdoor nut flush draw. If we miss the turn (i.e. danger card), then fold and move-on with an M~5. Hero is short anyway, relatively speaking, another reason to not yet surrender this pot.
RAI gives the V better than 3-1 to call, so let’s see one more card while Hero is getting ~3-1 before totally committing.
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Reraise or call are our only options????
Wow. Our image is TAG and we LIMP in CO with one limper ahead with suited ace. Granted it’s not a dominating hand but we have image and if table is observant we should get a lot of folds. Either raise 3x bb PF to weed out field or fold PF. If we hit resistance PF or post flop we can then easily lay it down because someone is serious. As it stands BB range is HUGE.
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Raise or call? WTF? Are you crazy? One thing with a shrinking stack that I would never do in this situation is just flat call. For those of of us who play poker with any kind of regularity already know that this is an easy fold. More than not our opponent has an overpair and has flopped undercards and decided to check raise. Unfortunately, we have to let this go. We’ll get better opportunities later on.
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I’m all in here.
Our post flop bet following villains check appears as a standard continuation semibluff. I am putting villain on 2 overs (possibly an ace) and an attempt to steal the pot.
With a dwindling stack, we won’t see many better opportunities than moving in with top pair top kicker.
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general johnson jameson Reply:
August 31st, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Ha, what? You can’t be serious. You wanna ship an 9 handed M over 7 with just a pair of 7s after you just got check raised 3x on a board that is filled with all kinds of draws and 2 pair possibilities? We won’t see many better opportunities with an M of over 7 at a 9 handed table? Haha. Your response made me laugh, I’m guessing its just a goof.
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Agreeing with most of the comments. I’m folding to the CR here unless I know something about V.
Between the options given in the quiz, I would prefer to shove rather than call. Calling now means there’s now way we see a river without all our chips in the middle. Over half the cards in the deck can be scare cards for H, so the chances are the turn won’t make things any better.
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uhmm.. well if the person in the big blind could have any two cards, i flop top pair with top kicker, now if the player on the BB is a great player, and i bet say half the pot on top pair.. then he could think im trying to push him of his hand and he could realize it and re raise me. it says i got a shrinking stack so i would honestly push all in with it. i would never fold when i have top pair against the BB (with top kicker i wouldnt fold) honestly, poker is a game of luck and skill and this is where it comes in. now if i had a nice high chip stack and just re raised him double what he raised me (1875)and he pushes all in.. then yes i would fold. but its really simple. overall my answer is re raise the player on the BB
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