
Game type: $1k freezeout on PokerStars
Stage of tourney: Two tables remain
Your image: Fairly tight
Opponent’s image: Aggressive, solid winner
Your hand: 8♣8♦
The setup: You’re deep in this $1,000 buy in tournament. 15 players remain when the following hand comes up.
You’re dealt 88 in the BB. Two players fold and the next player raises to a bit under 3x. The table folds around to you and you three bet to a little over 3x his raise. The original raiser thinks a bit and then pushes all in.
What’s your play? Would your answer change if you had 55? AQo?
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Tough spot. With 3 shorter stacks I don’t want to bust out but v probably knows that. Roughly even probabilities that I’m way ahead way behind or flipping. Even so I think I have to fold and kick myself for raising. Would have been a good spot to call for set mining.
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Well, we 3 bet with a tight image and we got our answer. I’m not sure what we’re hoping for here. Best case scenario is we’re against 2 overs.
The math says we are investing T43,000 to win T71,380, which comes out to about 1.66:1 on our money.
Because of our tight image, we should be tight with his 4 bet range, so we’ll say 99+, AQs+, AQo+. Against this range, we are a 35% favorite. (1.81:1 dog)
The price isn’t right, and our range favoritism is awful. We can still survive over 12 more full rotations until we are blinded out, and with 3 stacks half the size of ours at the same table I would fold this. Moving up 3 pay spots would also probably be nice as well with 15 left. I have a feeling we can do better than 88 in the BB as our last hand of the tournament. Let’s fold here.
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I’d fold.
It is not a good play to 3-bet pre against this type of opponent unless you are anticipating the next move. 88 is a good hand to call with and evaluate a flop, perhaps testing the waters. Hero is not nearly getting the right price against a tight range, which I’d say is 99+ and AK.
55 and AQo – my answer would not change.
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ICM says a definate fold considering the shorties to our left that will be hit with blinds next hand. We were getting great odds, specifically implied, to call and setmine, unfortunately, we tried to rep a bit stronger, and the 3bet got busted and we donked off 30% of our stack. Shitty spot.
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Major Dude Reply:
August 30th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Agreed.
Hard to figure out what our strategy was with the 3-bet — aside from hoping to induce a fold. If Villain calls, we’re out of position and not sure whether we’re racing big overcards or way behind a better pair.
We could push any non-A flop and hope our nonstop aggression carries the day. Or we could c-bet anything and hope Villain folds. But there’s real potential here for us to hemorrhage away all of our chips by overplaying a hand that just didn’t warrant it.
This move only makes sense if we think Villain is a mouse who reliably folds to pressure. That isn’t the read at all.
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Surprised 38% are voting to call here – this should be a pretty easy fold. H is not desperate and V’s range is much better than our medium PP. IMO the only reason to 3-bet preflop with 88 was to see how strong V’s hand is – I think we got our answer.
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