
Game type: $100 rebuy, PokerStars
Stage of tourney: Rebuy period closed
Your image: TAG
Opponent’s image: Aggressive, thinking players
Your hand: T♣T♦
The setup: You’ve got a solid stack in the 100R when the following hand comes up. UTG raises to about 2.5 and UTG+1 flats. The table folds to you in the BB and you decide to call with TT. The flop comes low:
9♦3♣3♥
It’s your action. What’s your play?
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Voted lead. With 2 callers v may decide not to cbet ak or similar and I don’t want them to see a free card when there are 4 overs to my 10s.
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Should have reraised pre IMO, knowing that we are first to act on the flop and hoping to get a fold.
It is high time to show some strength. I think a check/raise is in order here.
If we donk lead, I don’t think we get overs to fold.
I also don’t think it’s very likely that neither opponent would want us all to get a free turn, but if that happens I’m leading any brick and check-raising any face card.
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T Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 8:09 am
Oops I got lost in my negations there in the first half of the last sentence.
Meant to say, I think someone will bet this flop after us.
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Reraise pre imo also. I was always told that you want to flat call with hands you do want to see a flop with and reraise hands that you dont necessarily want to, and 4way, TT isn’t looking the prettiest. Donk looks suspicious here, as anyone who is paying attention would try it with whiffed anything, and we actually have “something.” A check-raise might look fishy also, since we almost never have a 3 here and the chances of us flopping a boat is pretty minimal, it looks like TT/JJ or something stupid like A9s. I dont think that we are way behind a whole lot on this flop, but i also would not want to build a huge pot, so check-calling is my vote.
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I’d check-call. It’s tough to select check-raise when we don’t yet know the number of callers or the bet size.
This is a good flop for tens however Hero is oop against two players. The range of the EP raiser contains mostly over-prs (88+) and over-cards. The range of the initial caller has pps (99-), scs, and over-cards. I’d let the agg raiser take the lead and hope to see a fold from UTG+2.
An over-card will hit the turn only ~1/3 of the time, so frequently I’d be leading into a blank. If an over hits, I’d check-fold.
With only a pp, prefer to avoid playing a big pot oop. I also don’t think it is optimal to lead into 2 agg opponents.
Check-folding on the flop seems weak when you have an over-pr on a draw-less board.
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i like a check raise. my goal is to find out if someones got a higher pair. it also doesnt hurt to give em a chance to stab at it before i take it down if they dont. c-r looks strong, theyd have to put us on at LEAST top pair, so if it gets called or reraised we’re in trouble. i probably shut it down.
leading is the worst option imo since it can easily induce a bluff raise or a float call which will put us in an awkward position. unless you wanna go broke here and have your mind set on calling a raise, i wouldnt donk.
check call sort of hands control over to opps who already have positional advantage, but is the best option if you want to make sure an under hits the turn before committing more chips.
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Major Dude Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Agreed on all points. We’re either ahead and hoping to dodge overs — or drawing very thin against someone who has JJ+. The c/r line is our best shot at figuring this out on the flop.
We’re told that opponents are aggressive, so I think we can pretty much count on a c-bet here if we check.
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I like the check raise. I don’t think anyone has us beat at the moment, but that can definitely change with the turn card. Hopefully we’ll get to see the turn with only one opponent, not two. Although we have a solid hand right now, I don’t think I’m prepared to dump a lot of chips to see this all the way through if it gets too expensive. If we check and both players check behind and the turn is not an over card to our 10′s then I’m leading for a healthy bet going into the river.
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I like how this is turning out with good cases being made for different plays.
Here’s a question about his hand: suppose you check with the intention of either calling or raising, what do you do when UTG bets and UTG+1 comes over the top?
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samo Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 9:36 am
I’d fold. That is a strong move against two solid players. Although TAG Hero checked, this is not necesarily a sign of weakness.
The pot has just become too large for 10-10.
We certainly could be getting bluffed by a V who wants to see if 88 is good, but most of the time we are behind imo.
If we call, still oop for rest of the hand. Additionally, we have no idea how UTG will react.
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