
Game type: $100 1R 1A, Full Tilt Poker
Stage of tourney: Getting near money
Your image: LAGish
Opponent’s image: Solid regular
Your hand: T♦9♦
The setup: You’re nearing the money with a solid stack in this $100 1r 1a tournament. This hand you get a suited T9 on the button and decide to mix up your play and limp when then table folds to you. The SB folds and the BB checks. You whiff the flop:
3♣4♦2♠
When the SB checks, you decide to take a stab and fire 600. You get called and pair the turn with the 9♣; your opponent checks and you check back. You river two pair with the T♣ and the BB leads for 1700.
What’s your play?
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why are most just calling?
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T Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 5:29 am
Why are 31 folding?
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Because we could be beat? Because if v is bluffing a raise will induce a fold. We limped so V has literally atc so we could be up against a straight or flush or set. V may have checked the turn planning to raise. Of course we are probably ahead but to me it is not a situation where I want to take the risk of doubling up a solid regular. This is a nice pot. Don’t get greedy. Paranoia is not always a bad thing.
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T Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 5:29 am
I agree villain’s check/call routine is a bit iffy. Admittedly I would be very tempted to raise here. But calling is better.
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Bleh. I cant see a laydown but i dont think we are crushing anyone at this point. Maybe a rivered worse 2pair? Backdoor flushed? We are in pretty good shape stack-wise unlike V who will be in shove/fold if he loses this pot, which is 1 reason i think he might be stabbing with just about anything. V pretty much NEEDS to win this pot to stay out of the red zone. I voted call but i think this is a reraise putting V all in. I think he is taking a weak stab at the pot considering hes betting ~1/3 of a PSB.
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Pirate21 Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Actually, the bet is a little over 1/2 pot. The pot size in the picture includes V’s bet.
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b1aze Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Oh right. Scratch that then. Snapcall, no raise.
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My instinct says call, but I usually end up raising anyway. Bluffs and pairs will snapfold obv. Not sure if BB special hands like 93 would call a river raise on this board. Anything stronger than that beats us. Seems to me calling and raising is the same 90% of the time, while we can win a little more 5% of the time and loose a lot more 5% of the time (since we won’t fold to a 3bet will we?).
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If you raise here, what hands is V calling with that you can beat? I could only see a lower two pair possibly calling, but he would not check if he flopped 2 pair when an over/2nd club hits on the turn. I voted call.
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I’d call.
Hero has top two in a limped pot with very little info gathered during the hand. We are up against a solid opponent, who appears to be taking a stab on the river. Hands that are beating us are sets, straight, and a flush.
I am going to rule-out a set, believing that a turn bet would have been in order. Same thought for a flopped straight, unless V held 6c5c. A flush is possible if V made the call with 2 over-clubs on the flop and saw a free river.
Are we losing value by not raising? Well, only a lower 2 pr might call with a losing hand, especially from a solid opponent. However, I think 2 pr would have played the hand stronger. V could have made it on the river, but that is a bit less likely since we have a 10.
I think most of the time the Hero raise is getting called (or r-r) by a better hand. A losing hand is folding anyway. Perhaps I’d raise against a weaker player, however content to call what amounts to be a thin-value bet.
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This is a classic case where raising accomplishes very little, especially vs a solid opponent. With few exceptions – hands you are ahead of will fold, hand you are behind will call.
We need to call for sure – top 2 is too good of a hand to fold given how the hand played, but raising here is opening the door for a big loss.
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Agree with most of the above. DON’T GET GREEDY! Take this nice pot and hopefully add it to your already nice stack and cruise right into the money. Since his description is solid I don’t think he’s ever calling with worse if we raise anyway.
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i hear the call contingent, and basically agree, but voted raise. if this quiz were posted tomorrow i might vote call. if you know (or strongly feel) youre ahead, get value. this is kind of where a lag image pays off, people call you lighter. weaker 2 pair is definitely in his range, and the way this hand played out, a strong 9 might make the call thinking we’re jumping on his show of weakness also. its not the worst thing in the world if we induce a fold too. i never mind not showing and leaving opps wondering.
This is where a more descriptive image than “solid regular” would come in handy.
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Ugh. I cringe whenever I see someone say they are “mixing it up” by open limping from the button. THIS IS NOT MIXING IT UP. This is called playing weak. Mixing it up is by continuing to raise but with just different hands, T9s being a beautiful candidate for doing just that, let alone pressuring the blinds from the button. Limping AA utg against a known maniac raising table is not mixing it up either, that is a totally reasonable specific plan under specific circumstances. Mixing it up is done before any sense of strategy, its something you need to do just to prevent predictability and survive the tourney.
Please stop open limping from mid/late and thinking it is mixing it up.
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