Tourney / NL

Medium ace facing all in, NL MTT

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Game type: $109 freezeout, Full Tilt Poker
Stage of tourney: Nearing money
Your image: Aggressive
Opponent’s image: LAG
Your hand: A♣T♦

The setup: You’re not quite on the bubble but nearing the money when the following hand comes up.

An aggressive player who just lost a big pot two hands ago shoves for under 10BBs UTG. The table folds to you in middle position.

The BB is basically all in as well already.

What’s your play?

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Groundhog day
7.30.10 / 4am

Voted call as V range is wide as they are about to be knocked down to less than 8bb. However if there had been previous anti collusive behavior by the two players to my left then I would fold. If they raise I am prob done. Any of the other 3 left to act want to come along thats fine with me.

Foldem
7.30.10 / 5am

Easy lay down.

samo
7.30.10 / 6am

I’d call here as Hero is ahead most of the time. The short stacks behind us will likely fold in hopes of moving-up a couple of notches. Hero has an Ace, and the shorties are probably not playing anything except AA here. Fold to any raise.

general johnson jameson
7.30.10 / 10am

This is a slam dunk call. The bubble is one of the best places to get a ton of extra chips. These shorties are gonna be shoving like crazy, and when we wake up with a good one we can pick them off. The UTG is shoving basically ATC here, because he knows he can’t go through the blinds again. Plus, the person in the BB is just letting themselves get blinded out hoping to make the money, so they will be folding. Call here. And as long as E folds, even if any of the remaining players make a move we are still getting a great price to call further.

We have 10x the stack that the UTG shover has, Harrington would say this rule alone makes this an automatic call with any two cards. We more than likely have the best hand at the table right now, lets get it in while we’re good and pick up a nice addition all the while eliminating another player. Even if we lose, we’ve only invested 3k, and we’re very healthy. There’s no need to raise and isolate, none of the players left are gonna be interested in getting in here unless they have a monster, and in that case we may fold depending on the feel of it. Folding is an ok option if you want to be a total tight wad and just make the bubble with your 25k. But if you’re playing to win instead of just $200, you will call this all day long.

Major Dude
7.31.10 / 9am

This one is probably a fold; conceivably a raise — but no way is it a call. The General’s argument for calling struck me as just plain wrong.

The guy in UTG has enough chips to be patient. He’s not pushing with any two cards. He’s waiting for the BB to die, which will happen soon enough. If he’s getting involved from early position, he’s got a hand. I’m putting him on 77+/AJ+. We’re either flipping for it or are seriously behind.

I’d be willing to get involved if we were late to act and the other big stacks had folded. But our AT is not a great hand, and we’re in trouble if anyone after us has a real hand and wants to get involved, too. Yes, it’s a small risk that any of remaining five players have AK/QQ+, because then they’re coming after us. But it’s not zero — and since the call vs. UTG is a borderline play at best, it just makes our situation less appealing.

The bubble is a great place to pick up chips, but you do it by scaring the medium stacks into folding in unclear situations. You don’t do it by calling all-ins with a marginal hand.

general johnson jameson Reply:

Why would he be bothering to wait for the BB to die? We’re still several people from bubble. He also doesn’t have chips to be patient. Every rotation is going to sap him for 675, which gives him an M of 4. If he folds here, he’s in the BB, which means he acts last and doesn’t get first in vigor. He is showing he wants to win, not just bubble. He has a massive range here. The fact he just lost a huge pot and was crippled a few hands ago nearing the bubble shows he doesn’t care about min-cashing, he wants to win. So unless he looks down at 32o, He has to shove here to maintain any strength of stack at all. Plus he knows the guy in BB isn’t gonna call.

We have 10x the stack, and a great hand for his range, calling here is more than ok. How can you argue for raise? A call alone is going to keep out others, and raising will just make you lose more chips if E shoves. Anyone else shoving we are still getting great price.

To fold here is OK too, there’s nothing wrong with turning into a total nit near the bubble. If calling the huge-range desperation all in of a guy who you have 10x the stack of with AT isn’t good enough for you, then I don’t know what more you want to make this call. Keep folding Major, nothing wrong with the bubble nit strategy. But +EV situations like this are a silly leak to have.