Weak Queen on the CO, NL MTT
Game type: $109 freezeout, PokerStars
Stage of tourney: 16 players remain
Your image: Tight
Opponent’s image:
Your hand: Q♦8♦
The setup: You’re deep in this 109 freezeout on Stars. Two tables remain.
You’ve been pretty tight when the following hand comes up. You get Q8s in the CO and the table folds.
What’s your play?
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7.29.10 / 4am
Lol well put. We must be multi tabling and not paying attn. I said raise fold. If we get played back at despite our tight image we are way behind. Folding is reasonable too.
7.29.10 / 6am
I think this is either fold or RAI, but prefer the former.
Yes, our image is tight but hand is only middle of the road. The big-stacked blinds already have more invested, and will look-up any open-raiser with any playable hand. Even if they just call a less than AI raise, we’re likely committed to a c-bet on the flop. This could result in a large investment on a mediocre hand.
Our M is high enough (11) to fold this and wait for something better as we try to ascend the $ ladder.
7.29.10 / 12pm
Agree with all the previous.
Keep in mind that many players not only equate our tight image with starting hand quality, but also with our fortitude to call when they play back at us. Our tight image may very well tempt at least one of the three to put us to the test - which we’ll obviously fail.
Q-8 is such a mediocre hand…save the chips.
7.29.10 / 2pm
i like a call personally. im hoping to get a multiway pot going for cheap, where i flop a good draw or lucky trip/two pair situation. ill have good position, and can get out easily without much damage if i dont flop good, or chip up heavy if the right board comes. hopefully my tight image will make the last few players wary of trying to steal or raise.
7.29.10 / 2am
Well… I’m not sure what our point is with this hand. What are we hoping for here? A blind steal attempt is the only thing I can see. To get folds we’ll probably have to go around 3.5x, which is about 14% of our stack. Our M is just over 10, and the blinds are the 2 deep stacks. We aren’t at the point yet where we are fold or all-in, however this isn’t the hand we want to try and navigate a flop with. At an 8 handed table we most likely don’t have the best hand, and if we get played back at we have no leg to stand on, and we have a short stack acting after us who is just begging to make a play over the top of us if it looks like we are being predictable. Especially with no reads on the blinds which is outrageous since we’ve sat here long enough and folded enough hands to develop a tight image, but we haven’t bothered to study the 2 people to our left who are the most important at the table besides the guy to our right? I see absolutely no reasonable argument for doing anything here other than folding.