
Game type: 1/2 No Limit Cash Game
Your image: Fairly Aggressive
Opponent’s image: Solid, a little tricky
Your hand: A♠Q♥
This hand you’re dealt AQo UTG and you decide to limp. The button limps and both blinds play. You flop top pair:
Q♦7♥6♦
The SB leads out for $6. The BB folds. You make it $24 and the button folds. The SB calls. The turn gives you two pair with the A♥. The SB checks and you pop $40 into $54. The SB flat calls.
The turn comes the 10H. The SB checks again. There’s $134 in the middle. Do you value bet here and if so, for how much?
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It may not be gutsy but I voted check here.
Seems to me 66, 77, 9d8d all fit his betting pattern. Remember we let him see a cheap flop. KdJd is also possible.
Flop behaviour fits SB having trips or a flush+inside straight draw.
The turn suggests that SB wanted to know if we were helped by the A. We told him that indeed we were. SB called anyway with less than 2.5:1 odds.
Now he boldly checks the river.
We may have concealed our AQ pre-flop but we have represented it exactly and it didn’t impress him, so to think he check/folds here would be hubris.
I think we’re read and beat, and I’d rather stop paying for this hand and see what he’s been playing with, than have him exploit my aggressive image any further.
If we win the pot is still nice enough.
Checking gives valuable information about the villain and moves our image towards ‘tight’.
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In the minority of voters but the majority of Commenters. Agreed with t. We have a nice hand and have done a good job of building a pot after good flop and turn. Check behind.
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I would check here. By checking Villain could expect a value bet that he can reraise. There is plenty in the pot here if he has surrendered. If we’re beat there’s no need to get more in.
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Tough choice but I favor a bet here.
First, there is no reason why SB gives us any credit for a big hand. Our UTG limp is weak and we have a fairly aggressive image, making our hand look even weaker. I don’t know how likely it is that SB has KJd or any two overcards. Facing a multi-way pot of weak limps, I feel like a raise would be a better choice here.
I highly doubt he is on a straight or a flush draw. He is getting terrible pot odds (1.5 to 1 on the flop and 2.3 to 1 on the turn). Even with our aggressive image he needs substantial implied odds. Calling the flop bet, he needs to extract an additional $84 from us to break even in expectation. The pot would only be at $54 with his call, so he would need us to call a bet that is almost twice the size of the pot or call bets on both streets, both of which are not extremely likely. On the turn, he needs implied odds totaling $106, a decent size bet to expect on the river.
Here is where it gets tricky. By the river he has called off 30% of his stack. He could be playing our image, in which case top pair is not all that unlikely. The only hand we are worried about is a set (given his likely range). His betting does seem to at least fit the mold for a set, so we can’t rule it out. I find it more likely that he could have A6 or A7, though. He could of even had top pair with the diamond flush draw.
The reason why we need to seriously consider betting is that we are in a hand where our opponent will probably call any bet. This means that a lot of value could be left on the table. If we thought he would fold to some bets and call others, we need to check (as we will probably only get called with hands that beat us). We have a solid hand and because it’s a cash game we really need to maximize our expected value here. I think our equity is definitely above 50% (this depends on how heavily you weight his set in your range).
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I voted bet (though I might be inclined to check behind in tourney). I think the math supports H being ahead of V’s range and as this is a cash game we need to extract value in that situation. Also, I have trouble buying that V is on a set and checked it 3 times – at the very least I would have expected him to fire on the river to make sure he doesn’t lose value if we check behind (even if he’s “a little tricky”).
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Bet.
I think any hand that beats our own leads on the river as not to lose value. This includes sets, back door flush, or 89 straight
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this is an easy bet in a cash game. if you limp and end up with top two big cards, youve gotten lucky and concealed what is now a very strong hand. also, an aggressive image is making our opponent call us with a wider range. sure, he couldve gotten lucky and ended up backing into a flush, or hit a set, blah blah blah, but you cant play scared and leave money on the table fearing the highly unlikely. not making money is the same as losing money in cases like this. he’s ready to pay, so who are we to turn that down? im betting $99 -its a bargain!
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If he had a set anywhere in this hand, why did he not raise to protect against the straight or two flush draws? If he got there on the river, why did he not bet for value? He could be hoping we fire another barrel but I suspect he just doesn’t believe we are as strong as we are since we limped. I think we are ahead. I think he may have had diamonds or QJ. Not sure I would bet but that is the way I am leaning.
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I’m gonna bet this as well. The size is a little tougher. I’m a little afraid of a shove over my bet, but I need to bet enough that he doesn’t believe I’m scared of that shove. Somewhere between $65-90 sounds good to me. He won’t think he can bluff me off, so he’ll call most weaker hands and only shove if he’s got the set/flush/straight that we’re concerned about here. I can still get away if I absolutely have to, whereas if I went with a bigger bet I’m going to be forced to call the imminent shove.
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AQ 77 many other hands cover us…
check to lose, or bluff to lose more…
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I’d check it down. The $40 call on the turn from a solid player is the reason. Against an agg player, it is not unusual to check a big hand on the river.
Hero’s line is a big pair. A set or 76 is c-r the turn, no? A solid player is not calling the flop raise with A7 or A6, and if they did, we would have heard something on the turn. (Maybe Ad7d calls the flop-raise?). I know it is a small part of their range, but something like 9h8h would call the turn.
A busted diamond draw is not calling the river, frankly only a small part of their range is. Against an average player, I’d lead for value, but will check in this spot.
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wow. a lot of these posters on here have serious leaks. we are betting this all day long. the SB has absolutely no reason to think we have top 2. our limp re-raise could be anything from QJ to a flush draw. He could have flopped 2 pair, or have some kind of combo straight/flush draw.
i love all the people being all cautious that he has a set: if he has a set, so be it. sometimes you have to pay one off, that’s why they are such beautiful hands. every single flop you have to give a set credit to every single hand in the game, are you going to play scared every single flop? the money you gain from being willing to pay off a set once in a while vs. the scared money you save isn’t even close. people with a set are expecting to get paid off. that’s why there is no sicker deck than one that gives set over set: both players are expecting to get paid off. even the pros know this.
the question here is: 1) is this hand winning more than 50% of the time here? and the answer is yes all day long. 1/8th of those times we will lose to a set. 1/50 of the time he will runner runner a flush. highly unlikely he chased to fill his open ended 6789 draw with 2 different flushes to draw to on river. 2) amount size is a little harder, we just have to go with whatever the highest possible amount is that doesn’t begin to narrow the range he could be on. i say shoot 80-90. that is irresistible to even top pair. he most likely has some kind of pair with a busted flush draw or straight draw. he has to at least have a pair or 2 pair. no one chases draws getting those prices.
have to bet here. these river value bets are what split good players from great players.
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