
Game type: Small NL tournament
Stage of tourney: First orbit
Your image: You’ve raised a few pots previous, no showdowns
Opponent’s image: No read
Your hand: K♦K♣
The setup: It’s nearing the end of the first blind level of this small NL tournament (about four dozen players). You’ve raised a couple pots already when the following hand comes up.
You get kings on the button and the table folds to you. You make it 80; the SB folds and the BB calls. The flop is pretty grisly:
3♥J♥Q♥
The BB checks and you bet 125. The BB check raises you to 660.
What’s your play?
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Call and stick it in on a non-heart turn. That’s the safest way to play it: any FDs or pair + draws would be happy to go all-in on this flop, which would be a flip for us. If we call and a heart hits it’s safe to say we’re beaten and we can cut our losses by folding. If we call and a brick comes the draw’s equity is reduced considerably and we can push them out or make them call incorrectly. Same if they lead a brick turn.
Raising is good, but it’s not the best to let them see two cards. We cannot price out draws on the flop.
Folding is weak when we have around 50% equity. Yeah, there is a possibility that there are monsters under our bed, but is it enough reason to fold an overpair w/ 15% of our stack already in the pot?
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jam.
lets look at the hands that are beating us. sets, 2 pairs, flushes, aces. based on the preflop flat call and post flop check on dangerous board, you can pretty much eliminate all but a small flush. queens and jacks dont flat pre. i dont think any set or q/j would check post on such a dangerous board unless theyre sure youll bet. big flush wouldnt spring the trap yet.
now lets look at hands were beating. pair with a heart, pair with no heart, no pair. air is only likely if weve been super aggressive, which we have no reason to think. leaving pair with or without a heart. either way, with the money in there, its time to jam and hope our hand holds up.
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Morat Reply:
June 14th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
C/ring this flop with a pair w/o a heart is a major blunder IMO. If you raise big w/ KQ, KJ would you call a 3bet? W/ AA, AQ probably, but these doesn’t fit preflop at all. Not saying it’s impossible but doesn’t seem likely either.
On the other hand his range we beat includes non-pair hands like Ahxx, Khxx, or 44-TT w/ one heart.
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I can see the point in both of the previous posts, but I think I lean more towards calling here. It seems to me that V is pretty close to committed with anything but air. As CB notes we are ahead of V’s most likely hands here, but we’re vulnerable to any A, Q, J or heart. This early, I’d prefer to call and leave myself the option to get away if those show up on the turn (not necessarily saying I would fold to all those, but I’d have to consider it).
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Iād call, although RAI is close. The deciding factor is Hero image/history, and disguised hand strength lead me to believe that I can get another bet from the V on the turn. This is the early stage of a low buy-in, so the V may also bluff with total air.
QJ and 33 are the worrisome hands, and of course we need to dodge the draws. As mentioned by the other posters, we also have the chance to get away if a nasty turn hits.
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I’m jamming also.. in a bigger tourney I probably just fold this, but if it’s about 50 players I realize fully that I need to finish in the top half of the final table to cash (much less win) and this is a good spot to pick up chips. Go for the win.
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I would never get myself in such a situation, because i will never raise to 80 chips with such a hand in this stage of the tournament.
I would definetely open raise with something around 200 at least, maybe 300 chips in this stage, with this hand.
And then the post flop decision is a pretty easy all-in.
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cornholio Reply:
June 15th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
yea you’re right that is a great play open raise for 15 BB. I should start doing that more often????!!!??? WTF?????? EURO
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