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The 5 couldn’t help him unless he had 77, or if he’s capable of calling flop overbet w/ a GS. He must have an overpair or a set waking up to protect against draws. Probably 56, 45 two pair is possible but unlikely. Since I won’t fold, I must raise here with good chances of getting called by worse.

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John Kugelman Reply:
May 14th, 2010 at 12:01 pm

“Since I won’t fold, I must raise here”

That doesn’t follow. If you’re not going to fold you can call, you don’t have to raise.

Two pair is a huge part of the villain’s range. I don’t see it likely that the villain stacks off with one pair here. Importantly, there’s little chance that the villain is semi-bluffing or betting with a combo draw. The only draw out there is 8x for a gutshot; everything other hand is either a straight already or some other made hand (two pair, set, one pair).

Raising is pretty bad, IMHO.

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I don’t get our flop bet. If we are betting that much to punish the chasers, and they chase anyway, then we pay them off anyway – just a really weird line.

Voted fold. I’m a nit, what can I tell you?

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I think I would call. Only hands I’m worried about are 55 and 77. Too late to protect against draws at this point.
It’s clear to V that we weren’t on a straight draw so this would be a good play for him to bet what is obviously a scary board to us.
Raising back would be very strong, but I don’t want to commit my whole stack on the first hand of the session vs an opponent we have no read on.

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I think I just call here and hope to not have to pay too much more to get to showdown. No read on opponent, 1st hand, and 4 cards to a straight out there, and we only have one pair. Yeah we might still be good but say he pushes on the river – then what?

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i can tell the posters so far dont play much heads up. you cannot put your opponent on ANY hand right here. he could have literally anything, from air to the nut straight.

im calling for pot control and to learn a bit more about opps game. its just the start. the knowledge will pay more than the $14 in the long run if it turns out were behind here.

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Waste_Of_Paint Reply:
May 14th, 2010 at 9:12 am

Hear hear, that is exactly what I thought. Villain has a far, far wider pre flop calling range than everyone is giving him credit for. I’d call and look to check/call the river.

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Waste_Of_Paint Reply:
May 14th, 2010 at 9:14 am

Oops, noticed we are in position. I’d look to call any river bet regardless of the card that shows up, and check behind if villain checks.

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How can you call with the river left to turn? Were I in villain’s shoes, given a call, I’d shove on the river ten times out of ten if I’d made it and six out of ten if not, assuming no read.

Is their having a 7 really that implausible? We screwed up; lay them down.

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_CityBorn_ Reply:
May 14th, 2010 at 1:25 pm

any v who would shove the river the vast majority of times regardless of their hand after being flat called on the turn is easily exploitable. its only a matter of time before we get their stack.

we could be trapping with a straight since v decided to take the lead and would likely lead river, at which point we could raise. theyd be priced in and wed either get their stack or leave them frustrated without knowing what happened and most of their money gone. its not an unlikely way hero could play the made straight given the action actually.

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RePete Reply:
May 14th, 2010 at 2:43 pm

Some of these posta are a little confusing. I am reading where som players give the V a wide range to be calling our H pf r with, but not enough credit for a hand w a 7 in it. (would A/7 be such a wild hand to call the pf r with?)
Let me play V for a minute.
First hand heads up and we know nothing about each other’s styles.
I get raised 3 x bb and I am sitting with A/7. Not an ureasonable hand. I could even consider reraising as any ace heads up is pretty good. But it’s early and I’ll just call.
Hero throws out a bit of a weird overbet to flop. Let’s try and put him on a hand. Hmmmmm.
10/10+ A/J+ isn’t out of range and given that hero will only catch flop one in 3 with unpaired cards in hole hero may be just putting standard cb out there. I have a gut shot so I’ll call just to see if hero has guts enough to fire out at the turn. Whoops… hit my gutshot. But there are also now 2 suited cards giving hero outs to flush if he’s holding A/Kh. Don’t want to let him catch a free river card so hoping for the c/r is too risky. Better throw out a bet that should price him out of flush & re-evaluate on river if 3rd heart hits. Unreasonable?
So CityBorn; your line of H pushing the straight is a little hard to understand as the V would have to put us on raising with hole cards that could beat his straight?
7/8??? overbet flop? As V I would probably call you down with my dummy end of the str8 and pick up a little info on your playing style. (not that in any decent heads up match you aren’t varying your style occasionally)

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I’m making a pot-sized raise.

Hero over-bet of the pot not respected, and Villain lead hopes to take it down. I don’t think 7x leads here against someone who just over-bet the pot.

Certainly could have 2-pr, but unlikely. Even so, still have 8 outs to beat that. I’d fold to a r-r … at a minimum, begin building an image that will not be pushed around.

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Being the first hand, there’s some value in us seeing this one all the way through.

You would expect him to check-raise the turn if he made his str8, so calling here sends a message that his lead out bluff (if that’s what it is) didn’t work.

If it’s not a bluff and he actually lead out with a straight – it’s valuable information.

Plus, taking your Queens all the way to the river, may advertise the fact that you’re not going to be run over if he’s super LAG.

In any other situation I think about laying Queens down, but with so much to be gained from a showdown (including even winning the pot..) I’m check-calling all the way.

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