Daily Hand Quiz

Lead. Hit or miss, lead river too. WTF. It’s only money.

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Good God, this game type is so far beyond my comprehension…

My question is WHY LEAD THE FLOP? He 4bet and worst case is he re-pops and then you have a bloated pot, a decision to chase your OESD and will be check folding the turn if you whiff.
Why not just check call his cbet? It will be for essentially the same amount you lead for anyways right? 4k seems like a standard cbet here.

By leading 4k, you’re are taking the initiative but you’re also doing his cbetting for him. Surely we can’t expect the 4bettor to fold to our lead. Seems unnecessarily spewey.

Thoughts??

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Man I wish I had these kind of decisions to make. I’d probably check call this turn and hope to hit on the river. I don’t think he’d fold an overpair if the river blanks so if I don’t hit I guess I’m dead. Can’t really see folding here though with this hand heads up.

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im going check raise all in here.

one: im happy enough if he checks behind giving me a free look at the river. at that point i can try to steal it if i miss, or bet for value if i hit, or check and give up, its in my hands, which is the way i like it.

two: if he bets, check-raise is the strongest move possible to try to get him off his hand. the only problem here is the flop lead. the story doesnt really add up, but its got to be scary enough that V will have to strongly consider folding all but the higher end of his range. we could have a big pair, or a 6 given the action, game type, and our aggressive image. if it ends up with a showdown, at least ive got a ton of outs.

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Not sure I would ever get to this spot since I don’t normally drink heavily while playing for significant $$. But here we are…
I think I’d have to continue the line and lead for ~8K. I mean really, if you’re gonna play 3-5s aggressively, you can’t hope for too much better of a board than this. If we hit either draw, our hand is well disguised and we should be able to get good value.
Not crazy about c/c because I think it reveals too much of our range.
c/r is interesting but we lose value if V checks behind and we hit our draw. But… it could win the hand here and we’d still have re-draws if we’re called.

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Clearly having no live experience, I’ll divide the $ by 100 and opine, based on what I have read about regarding this type of game.

Hero has built a strong line – calling a 4-bet p/f and leading the flop. I would for lead for 6.5K, a blocking bet size.

Checking with the intention to call may allow the V to push us out with a large bet.

Check-folding seems weak with the number of outs and the story-line we have already told. Additionally, for this reason a CR may not be transparent. If the V is putting us on a big pr or a 6, a lead is more likely than not. At this level of play (i.e. assuming V is skilled pro) I think they will pick us off if they have the big pr. Hero has outs, but I don’t feel good about potentially risking stack on a draw.

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I think if you check/raise all in here villian will be pot committed to call which will take away the fold equity you have. So leading is the correct play if he comes over the top of you then you are just priced in and have to call. Maximize your fold equity by leading. That should be the correct answer.

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Tbh I don’t know what’s the best line here, I didn’t play much 50/100 NL HU lately.
Preflop is either superspewy or sooo brilliant that I don’t get it at all. We wanted to reasteal w/ 35s. It didn’t work, so… call OOP??? The player in the actual hand must have had somewhat more sophisticated read about the opponent than “agressive, running well”. Oh, btw: he runs good? Than it’s a fold obv.

I can’t assign a range to him but I don’t think he has air. We donked into him on the flop – he should’ve raised w/ air, there’s not much room left for floating. If V really has any kind of pair I doubt we can make him fold whatever we do.
Leading 10k into 14k might look very strong, since we would be committed w/ any made hand on the river. (We’re not so we can c/f a brick river, since we doesn’t have FE). If he pushes turn we must call obv. If we have FE at all, this is the way to maximize it.
I like c/r the least. If we check and he bets in the 8-10k range shoving 25k will give him around 3:1 odds. Good odds and our wtf play will make him call w/ any pair and I think even better aces. We can only fold out air here.
c/c is safe but has two problems: 1) an agressive V bets 100% of his range here, so we won’t have any info about him. 2) we won’t have any FE on the river if we miss – so we’ll have to give up even against air. On the bright side, we can shove if we hit and we’ll have a good chance to get called.

Probably a lead as it has max FE against air, but we can find ourselves easily in the spot that all our money’s in the middle and we can only count on 8 or less of our outs…

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Nelson Reply:
May 5th, 2010 at 9:10 am

Hey Morat whats up! I’m an avid quiz reader/poker player here. I always think that you have some of the best insight on this board. Have you ever had any big scores?…live or online? I’m still workin on gettin a roll started but damn its hard!

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bottom line is, we are running behind.

And V doesn’t know our hand for sure. Judging from our bet history, V won’t buy our bluff if we do not get the outs. So what is the point of keep acting like we have 6?

Check/call.

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