Daily Hand Quiz

Check/call. I don’t see much point in playing this fast. I’m happy with our hand but a check/raise won’t accomplish much and leading is unnecessary. We have a boat but stacking off ASAP is a mistake. Take it slow, keep the villain’s range wide. If an overcard hits, so be it, still not folding.

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I don’t hate check call but I would lead again. I don’t see v flat alling predlop with a higher pair. No free river.

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Lead over half pot. Only hands that beat us are a hand with a 5 (so be it) and JJ thru AA, but most of those, maybe not JJ, would have reraised us preflop. So fairly likely V has a pair (boat) but worse than ours.

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Waste_Of_Paint Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 6:15 am

Just being pedantic here but we are also beaten by 77

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Pirate21 Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 9:36 am

Pedantic…. excellent word W_O_P. I actually had to look it up

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Not listed as a choice, but I like check-call.

V raise could be a probe to see if hero has a pr. 1010+ likely raising p/f, nevertheless hate to err against the big stack here. Probably ahead, but I like the slow-down approach that JK alludes to. I’ll check the turn, likely calling if an over hits. Hopefully this will earn a free riv.

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Morat Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 12:16 pm

I can’t get your point samo. You say we’re mos likely ahead, but don’t want to make a mistake against the big stack (you realize it’s cash game, no tourney). Then again, you’d call river if any overcard hits – don’t you see how -EV your line is: only putting money in the pot when you possibly beaten?

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samo Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 12:40 pm

Meant to say riv, not turn. Yes, cash game.

I prefer to c-c, because this gives the v a chance to take another stab, as a lead is likely folding-out most of their range. AA does not play the hand this way and KK, QQ are raising p/f. Hero is only behind JJ, 77, and 5x.

Hero has been active lately, so the v range may be a bit wider. Overcards would be scary, but only ~1 in 8 hit the riv. Frankly, calling $40 into $110 still puts overs in hero range. I think there is enough to extract that extra bet from the v.

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Morat Reply:
May 1st, 2010 at 5:37 pm

I don’t think V would make another stab w/ high cards. He already made one and it didn’t work. I would never try to make another move here, since any pair is a boat and it’s simply not profitable to try to push somebody off a boat. AQ, AK are actually good enough hands to check back on the river, since we may have lower non-pair hands.
Low pocket pairs however, are good enough for a call, but most of them aren’t good enough to bet. C/c line looses value from PPs in exchange for a distant chance that V tries to take away the pot with a worse hand. And don’t forget: V most probably has 6 outs. If one of them hits it not only costs us the pot we can claim now, but about 70-80 more.

Check / Fold (3%, 14 Votes) – REALLY?!?! What hands do you play?

I don’t see too many (other) ways to play this wrong. I’d like to bet something (either lead, c/c, or c/r) because a) I’d like to win more, b) I’ll kick myself if I give up a free river card and V hits his over and c) if river is safe, it will make a value bet more attractive to call.

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Lead. V either plays high cards and correctly thought we’d bluff a trips flop, or he has a PP himself. QQ+ is almost impossible, so JJ, 77 are the only concerns. If he had high cards and he raised for info he got the answer, so he won’t bluff again (maaaaaybe on the river if we check twice). Betting now chases away overcards (not a big loss IMO), but maximizes value against 66, 88, 99, maybe even lower pairs. If we got raised again we can be pretty sure we’re beaten.

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i like a smallish lead to induce another raise and make sure v pays for a river if hes holding overs. leading small on turn will often induce a raise from someone who raised the flop. he’ll want to keep his story up. i cant see us being behind here unless v got ridiculously lucky and flopped quads. im thinking we’re up against a smaller pair. even if he’s got overs, i can see him making another play for the pot.

if we get the raise, im coming over the top. im getting the money in as fast as possible here. if he played jj-aa this slow, hats off. if he got in against our raise with a/5 or 5/6 suited and flopped quads, congrats, youre a rack. reload please. leading river if called here.

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c/c easily makes most sense, unless you think you can get your opponent to spazz out by doing something weird. Could also c/f against some players.

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Overall, I feel that we’re best off leading here. I think people are right that the hand to fear here is JJ. Given the way V has played so far, I wouldn’t rule out TT either, but most of the time we’re ahead here and there are just too many cards that could be scary on the river for us not to bet here.

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check-call

Choice in line with our flop story.

check-fold is super weak.

check-raise, since we raised-called on flop with this board seemsd opp would fold hands we beat and cost at least 1/2 our stack if we are behind=bad.

Lead large folds out hands we are beating without extracting value.

Lead small is second closest option imo.

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KataLyzT Reply:
November 13th, 2011 at 6:46 pm

what if villain bets big on turn and river?
he could be bluffing with AK, AQ knowing that we’ve got some sort of middle pair and not willing to play it big. this makes our decision very tough …

a lead out of > half pot will let us know where we stand…and if raised then we can get away with the hand.

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