
Game type: $50 freezeout, PokerStars
Stage of tourney: Midstages
Your image: Fairly tight
Opponent’s image: Aggressive, but solid
Your hand: 9♥6♣
The setup: You’ve been pretty quiet with your stack for the last few orbits and no one has a real reason to suspect you of getting out of line. This hand you get a garbage hand in the BB and see a flop when two players limp. Both have mixed in some limps previously.
You flop a gutshot:
8♦Q♠5♥
It checks around. The turn is the 2♠. What’s your play?
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Lead. The ’2′ didn’t help them for sure, but you can rep a random 2 pair with the ’2′ being the BB. Betting 1000 into 1850 should do the trick. If you consider the gutshot outs, it’ll have to work less than 1/3 of the time. Player ‘E’ would have certainly bet any kind of hand in position, so he doesn’t make me worried at all. Player ‘C’ might have a slowplayed monster, but that won’t happen often enough to worry about. If we get called it must be a bluff-catcher type hand, so be ready to fire a second barrel on the river.
With reads I might try a c/r expecting player ‘E’ to try to take away the pot with air. IME agressive players do that fairly often on the turn in position, after the hand was checked around twice.
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Waste_Of_Paint Reply:
April 8th, 2010 at 3:31 am
Spot on.
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Waste_Of_Paint Reply:
April 8th, 2010 at 3:34 am
Only slight concern I have is this – I would usual expect an aggressive, solid player to take a swipe at this pot in position on the flop after two checks with pretty much any two cards. I would still lead out but I would be wary of any further action from player E.
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Morat Reply:
April 8th, 2010 at 5:01 am
It’s wise for player ‘E’ to check a low flop (with the intention to bet the turn if still noone shows interest) because BB can expect player ‘C’ to lead and can have some kind of hand there. He should bet any kind of hand for the same reason (player ‘C’ showed weakness by declining to lead, but BB might come along with worse).
But I just realized that player E’s stack can be a concern for a river bet or for a c/r. So c/r is ruled out, and we should be a bit more cautios on the river if it’s ‘E’ who calls us on the turn.
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If I were in position I’d stab at this if they both check again. Out of position, no thanks. If I get called I’d probably lose more money barreling the river with no option to check behind and give up.
Don’t have to win every pot.
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bb special! lead and take it down about 96% of the time. the flop check will seem like an attempted trap. 2 didnt help anyone but us.
easy one.
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kaimano Reply:
April 8th, 2010 at 8:34 am
…lead and gift some money to E’s pocket fives…
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Pirate21 Reply:
April 8th, 2010 at 8:46 am
I assume you’re kidding.
…or maybe the wealth of information we’ve gathered from the limp-check line allows us to put him solidly on a set of 5s?
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I’d absolutely take a stab at it now. Board fits well with a checked BB’s range and our image helps sell the bluff as well.
In the rare instances we’re called, I may fire again vs. C (assuming river is not a spade). If E calls, I play river a little more cautiously as he has the stack to call and I might even expect a r/r if we bet the river.
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I can see takin a stab for about a 1000. But to be honest – if I’m called I don’t know if I have it in me to bet more on the river if I still have jack squat. There would be about 3850 in there (if we were called on the turn by one person) so what do we do and/or how much do we bet on the river to make if believable? 2500? Or do we check/fold and move on?
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_CityBorn_ Reply:
April 8th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
i probably bet something like 2200. small enough that it looks like we’re hoping to get called. but not so small that he’ll just call out of curiosity. usually someone who called the turn with a mediocre hand and doesnt improve will let it go at this point unless they have reason to make a hero call.
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What would everyone do if we lead, get called by E, and spike the 7 on the river? Lead again?
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Nelson Reply:
April 8th, 2010 at 9:54 am
I would lead again for sure. Too risky to check and try to be sneaky. I don’t think villain would try a bluff in this spot so they will probably just check behind and we’ll miss some value. I’d keep the lead low though – maybe around 1750 or so. That way they might feel like its worth it to check us out if they have one or two pair, and it might even seem weak to them – which would be awesome if they decided to raise us.
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samo Reply:
April 8th, 2010 at 10:34 am
If the E is “agg and solid”, I’d check with the intent to CR. The 7 will be viewed as harmless and v will likely make a thin value bet, having at least a decent Q.
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Morat Reply:
April 8th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Lead a small amount. I don’t think he can have much to call a bigger bet, but he might shove over if he smells weakness.
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_CityBorn_ Reply:
April 8th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
gotta lead. if he’s calling the turn, the 7′s not scaring him off, so he’ll call a bet. he could easily check behind as well with a mediocre hand figuring hes happy enough to get to showdown, and we dont want to miss out on value. hes not drawing, so we cant hope to induce a bluff from a missed draw…which means it all adds up to value-town.
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Iām checking. Hero is oop against 2 players. Board is totally dry, so Qx could have been slow-played and even a mid-pr may look you up.
Leading means ~1200 now and if called, possibly another ~2500 on the riv. Not willing to risk ~25% of stack ā nothing incremental invested. Heads-up and with position I would lead.
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