Daily Hand Quiz

Hateful turn card, and it’s slowing me down. No way I want to spunk off all my chips with an over-pair on a board like that at this stage of the tourney, I just don’t love my kings that much. Leading too high risk at this stage, check-raise is just stupidity, we don’t have a big enough stack for any fold equity.

That leaves check-call and check-fold, and I’m considering both. If he was on a draw post-flop, then the turn definitely helped him. So we’re not looking good if our tight opp was on a draw, we’re not looking good if he hit a set, with a raggedy two unlikely. What are we beating ? A10, K10,Q10, A8, K8, Q8 type hands with no hearts.

Maybe it’s nitty, but I’m happy to check-fold, take my 20bbs and play on, there are better spots than this.

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It’s horrible but I shove. You can’t check call or C/R as you’ll end up being committed anyway and give a chance for another heart to arrive on the turn for no payment. We could check/fold, but with 15K in the pot and 20K behind folding simply on the basis a flush/set/2 pair MIGHT be there is too nitty IMO.

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Voted c-fold. Leading into a 16K pot with 20K behind on only top pair leaves you in an awkward sitch for the riv. C-R a tight v is tossing your tourney away. V has been playing passively so let’s see if we can get to the riv cheaply. I think QQ & JJ are raising that flop, so hero more likely up against a heart draw, maybe Ah10, or a turned flush. Calling a turn bet with your stack size commits, so a bet here will push me out – the advantage of a tight image with position. Still have a good enough stack to cash.

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The problem is that if he has the flush we are drawing dead while if we are ahead he has probably outs to beat us. Even if he has AJ he still has 5 outs and if he has the Ace of hearts he has many more outs. With 20 big blinds I’m going to let this go. I check and hope he checks behind with a jack fearing himself the flush.

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lol at the fold equity comment. Like we’re going to be bluffing with an overpair with a 20bb stack. Bet more on the flop and ship turn. Sure we’ll be behind sometimes, but I’m pretty sure we’re good often enough.

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im surprised to be with the crowd on check-fold. not that i loved voting it. im with sage, looking at the range of hands we’re beating right now isnt that convincing if we’re up against a tight opponent. theres just not that many hands he’s playing here that we’re beating at this point. sure, its possible he got stubborn on us here and called with k/10 or a/8, but i think its more likely we just got beat by hearts, a straight, j/10 or the like. id rather not end my tourney here, take my 20 bbs and keep it moving…

if he checks behind though and a blank hits the turn…i dont know…maybe i lead for value and fold if he raises.

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Check/folding is LOL ridiculous. If only the $109+R were so soft that people would check/fold KK when a flush draw completes. Wow.

Sorry but we’re not getting away from this hand. Lead and like it.

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_CityBorn_ Reply:
March 9th, 2010 at 12:20 pm

problem is theres a lot more than just a flush that beats us here. within the likely range of hands, given image and action, most are beating us at this point. flush…a straight draw just made it, 2 pairs, sets….

whats lol ridiculous about that?

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Gotta agree with the check/fold people. I do think that we may still be ahead, and theres a nice amount already in the pot to fight for, but I just don’t want to risk going out at this stage with only one pair. Theres too much out there that could have easily hit the villain.

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I simply don’t see how all those people saying c/f want to get to the final table if they don’t like this spot. We cbet and a tight passive opponent called. His range on the flop includes any pair, two overs, and yes, flush draws as well. (note: I don’t see much monsters there: it’s pretty silly to play 55, TT this way pre considering effective stacks. My biggest concern would be T8s, JTs – not hearts obv.)
If our opponnent wasn’t passive, I’d go for a c/r here. Not for fold equity (which you don’t have) but to commit him/call allin. The turn is a perfect float/semi-bluff card.
Now that he is passive you have to lead, you can’t let him draw out on you for free. The A,K,Q of hearts may even call you. And you’ll run into the flush every now and then, but far not often enough to make it a c/f. And bet more on the flop obv.

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This one is tough because we have a weak stack in the late stages of the tournament. The blinds are going to eat us up soon, and KK has a lot of value in it.

My thought here is that Villain is a weak tight playing a wider range from the button. I also believe villain would think we are C-betting here just to take the pot down so he floats us.

I would definitely put his range on A-10 or Ax. Suited cards, sets, and J-10 for two-pair are existing combos as well. He can also have 99 and other pocket pairs that have missed.

My question is, what exactly is villain calling our c-bet with? Would he float with AJ, KJ type hands? Maybe he has a weak ace/pocket pair?

If we check/fold here, we are down to 20BB and the ante structure is not forgiving.

Ship it and hope villain calls with worse.

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Kevin Reply:
March 16th, 2010 at 7:22 pm

I think because there calling him a tight player,he has monster draw. AA,Set, he comes over the top on are flop bet. I put him on AK hearts. He got us beat. I voted check call,but only if its cheap. If we check and he put a pot size bet out. Lay it Down!

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