Daily Hand Quiz

24k to win 35k and an ace in your hand…what else do you want? A red carpet?

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WasteOfPaint Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 6:22 am

It’s not 24k to win 35k. Villain has us covered. It’s more like 24k to win 28k.

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Pirate21 Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 7:19 am

No, Kaimano is pretty close. There’s $35K in the pot of which we could win ~$34K. V only has us covered by about $1K. Either way though, point is essentially the same.

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WasteOfPaint Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 8:15 am

Apologies, my mistake, it’s the antes that make up the extra amount

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Voted call. V’s shoving range is pretty wide and we’re either a slight fave or slight dog against most of it.
Choice is really whether to take the chance now or later. I like only having to beat one player and I like that we get the maximum possible return if we go now.

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I can understand the call here but I’m folding. I know this may sound a little nitty, but since I’m deep in the money I think I’d rather try to move up a few spots on the payout ladder before risking everything. Or at least let the blinds go by and have some good position again.

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Call. His reshoving range is going to be wide because he knows we will be stealing a lot and he’s got a perfect resteal stack size. With only 15BB when the hand starts we should NOT be raise/folding.

If you’re actually inclined to fold here then you need to be open shoving this hand. Raise/fold is criminal and if you are that weak/tight you will get absolutely run over at a tough table.

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Nelson Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 10:11 am

Sounds good. Thanx for the advice John. So in this case, would you open shove if it was folded around to you and the descriptions were the same? Is it ever right to raise/fold in this spot? (if the descriptions of players were different, or if there was a huge pay jump in the next spot up or something like that?)

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John Kugelman Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 10:32 am

In a normal tourney there’s never a significant enough pay jump to attempt to raise/fold. In a satellite tourney near the bubble perhaps, but normal tourneys have all the money at the top. Playing to move up spots is not a good endgame strategy.

With up to 20BB you should stick to three options: fold, shove, or raise/call. If you intend to raise/fold don’t–better to shove or fold instead.

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Pete Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 3:41 pm

I’d like to add a qualifier here: Against certain opponents it can be good to raise/fold. If you know your opponent is weak-tight and will never re-steal then you can raise small with a very wide range and fold to a ship, knowing the vast majority of the time you’ll take it down for free and when he does have a monster you can get out of the way. Most opponents will not be this bad obviously.

I trusted the dynamics of the images based on prior history and voted call. Hero is tight and I’ll assume passive, perhaps prompting the v to make this move. Hero raised knowing agg v may make 3-bet. Need to follow through here with an A in your hand getting ~3-2 vs a wide range.

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what happened to “view the original quiz”? id like to copy paste what i wrote there and save myself some typing energy.

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Pirate21 Reply:
March 4th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

It went to the same place as “what actually happened” and “Staff analysis”

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I voted fold. What do you think about a limp/call here?. If you just limp here, is the V still going to shove?.

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