Daily Hand Quiz

Voted raise and fold. Shorthanded you have to take a stab at it with 20 BBs. But this is not the hill you want to die on.

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Raise and fold – hero has big enough stack and strong enough hand to play. Imo can’t RAI with the large stack behind this close to the bub with only a 10K pot to gain. With ~25bb stacks, I think you can put the blinds in the top of their range should they 3-bet.

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I gotta agree with Groundhog. I’d bet about 12,500 and hope to take it down or at worst get called and see a flop. I’d have to fold to a big raise preflop so that I still had some fold equity with about 88,000 left in my stack. I guess a more sure option to steal the blinds would be to just go all in preflop but if you’re called you’re almost for sure beat by a higher pocket pair or racing at best.

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Yeah, same here. Ironically, being in the CO probably hurts a little because any decent hand will probably figure we’re stealing and re-raise. Still, have to take a shot at it with a PP but the pair is not good enough to take a stand.
How much better would your pair need to be to move you to raise-call?

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Nelson Reply:
February 12th, 2010 at 10:10 am

Hmmm….interesting…a quiz inside a quiz…I like it. Well, I’m not sure. I think if I had pocket Jacks or better I’d reraise all in. If I had pocket nines or 10s I’d probably call a reraise and evaluate the flop. But pocket 7s or 8s I think I’d dump them to a reraise.

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Pirate21 Reply:
February 12th, 2010 at 11:48 am

I was kinda thinking:
>= 88 raise/fold
99-TT raise/call
JJ-QQ shove
KK-AA call and and try for value

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Nelson Reply:
February 12th, 2010 at 11:56 am

Yeah this sounds good. Even more detailed. I didn’t even think about the whole KK-AA value thing. If I had one of those two pairs I’d probably 4 bet it preflop. Maybe not. But yeah now that I think about it the shove might be wrong with pairs that strong. (Wish me luck Pirate! Tonight I’m playing in a $55 satty to get into a $535 Omaha tourny tomorrow on Fulltilt. Omaha is my best game.)

samo Reply:
February 12th, 2010 at 10:20 am

99+ to call a 3-bet.

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raise here and 4-bet shove over a standard reraise. unless v has jj+ or ak, theyre not calling, and we’re beating ak. i dont mind a slight favorite here if it comes to that…maybe we double up and make a run toward a top spot.

with 20 bbs, shorthanded against aggressive players, you cant sit around waiting for the nuts. you have to raise this hand, and any aggressive player with a decent hand could easily make a play against your late position open-raise. if you make it 14k or so, and they raise to 35 ish, a shove here will tell them you mean business while you have enough chips to have decent fold equity. any non-primos will drop it. you dont want to see a flop with 66, you want to take down their 3-bet and send a message that they shouldnt be spewing chips testing your raises. if you run into a big pair, well shit….thats bad luck. 6 handed with only 3 players behind, the chances are slim, cant play scared.

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Pirate21 Reply:
February 12th, 2010 at 1:53 pm

Yeah, you make a good point. Shoving against a reraise with a marginal PP is always a bit of a scary play – but you have to be able to make that play if you want to win a tourney.
The other thing I was thinking about is the message a raise-fold would send to a table of “strong, aggressive” players…

Good luck tonight Nelson.

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first instinct was to raise/fold, but read cityborns analysis, and think that this is spot on. It’s a tourney, late stages and aggressiveness gets rewarded. I suck in a deep one, grab my balls and 4-bet shove. Alternatively I raise/fold, and curse my conservative nature when I finish 8th, or 6th, or something retarded like that.

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Pete Reply:
February 15th, 2010 at 5:32 am

What? No one is ever going to 3bet and fold to a 4bet. You have 20bbs! Any 3b effectively puts you allin

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meh Reply:
February 16th, 2010 at 1:10 pm

no-one?

I must admit, If I wanted to 3bet light, I’d only do it from the button. From the blinds, any 3bet I make would be Allin…

…However I’m sure someone with AT-AQ and even 22-88 could make this move.

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