Daily Hand Quiz

Raise:
2x + 3/4 the buttons bet for the bluff.
(2 x 1000 + 750) = 2750 for the amount of the bluff.

Why:
He didn’t raise with K or Q, and he is only betting a little more then 1/2 size of the pot to make people think he has a 3.

I’m the chip leader and its a good time to bluff.

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Pointless bluff, we’d represent precisely 0 credible hands. Pretty sure the button will snap us off with any pair, even bottom pair.

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I don’t see V limping with a 3 or 6. V can have anything like Q10 K9 or KQ.. the fact that hero is in the BB can give hero more credit of having a 3. If hero raises big enough V will lay down most QX’s and weak Kings.

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John Kugelman Reply:
January 25th, 2010 at 2:10 pm

The villain will *never* lay down Qx or Kx, nor should he. Really, the hero has trip 3′s and checked a third time? Yeah, right.

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cada.yang.gold-LEGENDS Reply:
January 26th, 2010 at 9:51 am

I can understand checking a K or Q on the flop but would you check on the turn when a flush(and straight) draw comes out? No it’s just asking to be rivered.

Just seems like V is betting a blank and if we raise big we can pick off a positional play.

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SAMMMMI Reply:
January 28th, 2010 at 12:29 am

What if he thinks that you are trying to snap off his positional play with air and re raises? It probably wont happen often in this spot, but you don’t have any business raising here, i cannot imagine its a winning play, you are only beating a bluff and you have 250 invested, with 19K stack and the blinds at 125/250 I think you’ll have plenty of time to pick a better spot.

I’d fold. The board is harmless, affording the v to slow-play Kx or Qx, which is calling a bluff here. Hero would have to invest at least 20%, and still not guaranteed to pull it off. Nothing incremental invested, so let it go.

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fold and move on to the next hand. hes gonna call u with two pair here 90% of the time.

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We are losing a small pot. just fold and win the next (big) one.

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_CityBorn_ Reply:
January 25th, 2010 at 2:34 pm

exactly

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Risk vs. reward doesn’t support this play. You need to risk at least 15% of your stack for less than 50/50 chance of winning 10% (and the LAG image doesn’t help you here).

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Pre flop players limp so they see a flop. Turn players check river comes player bets he has either high card or slow playing a monster. Try to play a bluff by raising twice what’s put in to make ut seem like a value bet. Player doesn’t feel stein about his hand and lays it down. You win east as that. Poker’s about patience and well timed aggression

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Well in this situation it depends on who your up against. If you are playing against people who you would consider amateurs well then the smart thing to do here would be to fold because amateurs call with anything even 2 high and that’s not even possible. So,the smart thing to do here would be to fold and live to fight another pot.

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With info given — as if wlak on table, new — must fold. If know opponent well perhaps otherwise. Mais non, here, must fold.

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Et aussie, the hand played badly at flop and river. To check, et check … all chance to probe, to learn, is away.

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Unknown–safe fold until i can do the numbers

1) Our image is bad for bluffing: We have a LAG image which is suggestive of bluffing
2) Every hand worth check raising with would either have raised/check raised before the river and NOT have checked the river with the total lack of an aggressor the whole hand. This means we are on a bluff.
3) Risk vs Reward: We risk 20% our stack to win 10%–>blah. Is it worth it? Do we have a better than 66% chance that he will lay down? I am inclined to think he is value betting something like QJ,Q10 because he knows it’s good, maybe even 1010 or JJ…or bluffing to steal an ‘unwanted’ pot. Will villain fold to the check-raise here 66% of the time? My gut reaction is oddly–yes, most of the time villain will have total air, synthesized that you two didn’t have anything worthwhile and trying to bet you off your crap holdings with a missed Ax (A10? A9? J10?) or a completed A3. Re-examining the math of card combinations restrains my eagerness to speculate as while I think it is more likely that v would bet pot with air than 1010, J, and bad queens, there are enough combinations there are more queens and JJ 1010 card combinations out there modified that would Vbet here than missed Ax combinations to bluff with.

While villain WILL have a queen here a high proportio nof the time, I’d need to do the math

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Anyone up for clunge?

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Triple check out of position is pretty weak,…and we could be repping trips but its the only reasonable thing we have, it could work but we need the right opponent and the right reputation,…i dont think we have that here

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He Might be limping in with a small pair like 22 or 55 and be trying to take it down in case someone in the blinds were sitting with q rag or even something like 6 10, or A6. Raising here would not be a good move IMO, if you get re raised you lose if he calls with a pair you lose, if he calls with Ace high (which is unlikely) you lose, the pot is small you have nothing but the blinds invested, worst thing possible would be for you to raise and then get re raised in which case you would have to fold, and then he might show you a sick bluff. Don’t get your fingers snapped off in the cookie jar.

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You’re all wrong.

This is an ALL-IN moment. If you’re truly a LAG and you have 19k while it’s still EARLY in the game, then players have seen you pick off a couple of people already and aren’t going to want to risk their whole stack to double up early.

You see all the mental gyration going on in the comments up ’til now? Well, by going all in, you put THEM on the ropes and that’s what YOU make them do. So, instead of the LAG having to think, “it’s a small pot, I should just lay down”, he should be a true LAG and represent SOMETHING worth risking half his stack.

Is it a great play? No.
Is it even a good play? No.
Is it the BEST play for this situation? Yes.

OTHERWISE, THE QUESTION WOULD BE DECEPTIVE BECAUSE WE WOULDN’T BE A TRUE LAG.

Remember, also, this is not LATE in the game, and no one is desperate and short-stacked and they’ve already seen LAG get lucky and pick off a couple of players already (19k).

The real question is, what are the two oppoenents’ TABLE IMAGES?

Anyways, this is CLEARLY an ALL-IN moment for us as a super-stack LAG early in the game. Youi’re all thinking like TIGHT PASSIVE players.

Best wishes to y’all!
Sam Freedom

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_CityBorn_ Reply:
January 28th, 2010 at 7:55 am

just because youre lag doesnt mean you go all in on every pot. no matter what style youre using, you have to keep opponents off balance. if youre too predictable, or aggressively putting chips in no matter what the situation, youre easily exploitable. a successfully played lag style still maintains unpredictability….just LEANING toward playing more hands and playing aggressively when involved in a pot. you still have to pick and choose when to make your plays. we havent put a cent into this pot voluntarily and our image as well as the action puts any move here into the dubious category. your play sounds like a lot of risk, very little reward, and when you get picked off, which seems reasonably likely, the whole table will be gunning for your not-so-super-anymore stack. if luck doesnt really hold you up, youll be on the rail very quickly playing like that.

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samo Reply:
January 28th, 2010 at 10:18 am

In this case your LAG would lead on the riv representing trips and not CRAI. The latter is easily picked-off by even an average player. The LAG lead may get called, but likely not raised, so you are risking much less.

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checkraise for value IMO. He’s probably going to snap you off with 10 high.

In all serious though, if you really think the button is bluffing enough then you should call, not raise, because no better hands are folding.

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First in gets this pot. Bluffs are better when set up with bets on earlier streets. If you riase here you only get called by a hand that bears you. There is only one blind to lose. Easy fold.

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