
Game type: $50 1R 1A, PokerStars
Stage of tourney: Final Table
Your image: Aggressive
Opponent’s image: Solid
Your hand: A♦8♠
The setup: You’ve made the FT of this $50 one rebuy one addon tournament on PokerStars. You’ve been a little aggressive since FT play began an orbit or so ago. The table has played pretty tightly. This hand you raise A8o from early position and get 2 callers. You flop top pair:
8♣6♣5♣
You lead for 9300 into 13350, and the button calls. The turn pairs the board with the 6♠.
What’s your play?
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Check – Fold.
This is a terrible spot.
Our opponent’s stack means that if we bet here all we accomplish is folding out weaker hands and being pot committed to call a shove by those hands which have us dominated.
I find our opponent’s flat call on the flop to be really strong. There really aren’t many hands willing to do that. The standard response would’ve been to shove our c-bet if our opponent hit this board or fold if they didn’t.
This is not a spot where our opponent is not likely to be making a float play. Firstly our image and stack size means our opponent should expect a second barrell more often then not. Secondly our opponent’s image and stack size leads me to believe they aren’t risking a playable stack at the final table on a high variance move.
If our opponent was deeper I’d really want to fire another barrell because any draw has to be concerned by the board pairing and the float play or a draw would be a bigger part of our opponent’s range.
But the table has been playing tight, our opponent is solid, I give them credit for a hand here and shut down. Plenty of chips still.
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black fair Reply:
November 26th, 2009 at 1:19 am
“This is not a spot where our opponent is not likely to be making a float play”
should read
“This is not a spot where our opponent is likely to be making a float play”
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Happy TDay to all who celebrate. This is a spot where hero’s objective should be to get to the riv as cheaply as possible. Leading here will not accomplish that. Yes, you will fold-out losing hands, but leave yourself vulnerable to spew $34K vs. better hands. CR does not seem reasonable given the situation – 2nd @ FT, hero’s hand, stack sizes, images, etc. That leaves check-call or check-fold. I think the v would shove an overpair or a big club on the flop. Hero may still be ahead and that 2nd 6 may work to our favor and slow-down the action. If they bet, let them take it. You are still in the 2nd slot.
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How about a pro explaining how he would play these quizzes and give his reasoning.
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cornholio Reply:
December 6th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Best comment I’ve heard yet. Do any of the people posting cash consistently? Might as well get advice from a bum on the street. Who are any of these people???
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im betting and calling a shove. im betting because unless he flopped a flush, i just cant imagine a made hand here that is beating us and plays his line. AA with the ace of clubs wouldnt be worried about a flush draw, but the straight might be a concern and i think he’d reraise preflop with a shortish stack and a raise and call in front already. a set would be worried about both straight and flush draws. any pair 99-kk would be worried about straight, flush and overs….etc. with the pot size and stack sizes what they are, pretty much everything other than a flopped flush would normally raise the flop.
he flat called because he is drawing, and wanted to control the pot. or he floated us because of our image. either way….im betting this pretty hard since any bet effectively commits us anyway.
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black fair Reply:
November 26th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
what about our image encourages a float? you float to expoit people who fire one barrel and check-fold. Our preflop raise, stack size and aggressive image all make the probability of us giving up on the turn extremely unlikely.
A hand drawing on this flop shoves 100% of the time.
“with the pot size and stack sizes what they are, pretty much everything other than a flopped flush would normally raise the flop.”
Exactly. Flopped flush is his most likely holding.
The only other option is that a solid player on a tight final table decided to float 1/5th his stack on an extremely danagerous board with air against an aggressive preflop raiser.
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