Daily Hand Quiz

Call.

I don’t really see how we can fold here.

I think our image as tight more likely contributes to the villian thinking he has more, not less fold equity.

Our tight image can have one of two effects:

1) We are percieved as only raising hands from the sb vs bb that we’ll call a shove with

2) We are only calling a shove with a very tight range within the range of hands we will raise from the sb vs bb.

Obviously if our opponent thinks 1) he’s only shoving a tight range. If he thinks 2) he’s shoving a wide range.

I personally think an aggressive winning player operates along the lines of number 2. Therefore I’m giving our opponent a fairly wide range here.

So I think our A8 is ahead here. On top of that we’re getting good odds and we’ve already made the money.

Call and pray.

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DarkSpace Reply:
November 25th, 2009 at 1:26 am

Are you serious!

I would fold this hand without hesitation. The only time I would call is if I have 3x his stack. Anything else, I fold without even thinking about it.

No chance to risk your tournament hand in this situation. I would wait for a better position and even, a better hand. If he has anything in the range of KQ or even Q10, your going on a coin flip.

Seriously, fold.

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black fair Reply:
November 25th, 2009 at 1:36 am

Well we’re getting better than 2:1 so we have the required odds for a coinflip.

Once in the money I don’t really have a problem with coin flips, we’re playing to win now.

If we fold here we’re left with the third smallest stack, by a significant margin, on a tough table with an M of 6.

The pay structure could become a factor here, but in general I’m happy to back my hand in this spot.

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Voted fold. Hero would be calling 24K into ~30K pot as he/she is covered. 74% of the time when you are dealt an A, another player has one. I think Players B and E would shove with an A. Besides pockets, hero may up against a better A. V recognizes hero image and is a winning player. V is putting hero on a tighter range given this image, as well as stack size. Let this one go – if you are not behind, it is a coin-flip for tourney life.

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I call and throw the dice. You have to throw em sooner or later, and winners need to make moves-that’s why they’re winners. Honestly, A8 isn’t the best, but it’s not terrible if he’s opening on you with kings some broadway, which is very likely. 24 into 34.8

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I think you have to call. First of all, if he’s aggressive and you open from the SB, he could easily put you on a steal or a wide range despite your tight image. Even tight players know that when the table folds all the way around to you, you can try to steal it in late position. I doubt he’s putting us on something as strong as a/8….now, that doesnt mean he didnt wake up with a real hand, thats entirely possible. Its also probable that we’re a 60/40 favorite or maybe we even have him crushed, with a nice little chunk of our stack in there. I dont think we can let the aggressive player to our left take our 4400 chips here without earning them. Our stack is too small, and we have to establish with him and everyone else that we’re willing to play pots, and youre risking your chips when you come over the top. If we’re going to win this thing, you have to establish that sort of stuff….especially at a tough table.

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As far as I see it here, you really only beat a bluff. All things considered, you have the button coming up and you can pick a much better spot to get it in. He’s a solid player and isnt stacked enough to shove with less than a8. You don’t win tourneys like that. There’s probably still dead money here and it’s not worth praying to be up against only a cointoss. People get good hands in the blinds too. I may shove to a reraise but to call a shove here is poor equity.

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NO DOUBT YOU FOLD HERE WHAT CAN YOU ACTUALLY BEAT A WEAKER ACE ANYTHING ELSE YOUR BEHIND

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This guy is aggressive and good. He’s not crazy. Look at the bet-sizing; a shove is a huge overbet. Solid winners know that huge overbet bluffs are -EV because when you do get looked up it’s by something that has you crushed. What kind of solid, winning player risks 29 thousand to win 8 thousand?
People can get hands in the bb. It happens.
You probably have a lone overcard to his pocker pair or are dominated by his bigger ace.

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