Daily Hand Quiz

Bet $290

Perfect card for a second barrel in my opinion.

I’m inclined to think our opponent was floating the flop, when we bet into him again with the turned flush on the board I think he lays down the majority of his hands.

A note on the images, surely our image and our opponents have been switched? If we haven’t been making much noise I assume we’re more likely the TAG.

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I also think the images have been switched, so with that in mind, bet over half the pot. Hero’s flop bet of ~85% could rep a big pair or AK. Think you have to continue strong line and bet about 2/3 pot. May have best hand, if not, there are 12 outs on the riv. Hero is short-stacked, so if called, any riv bet/call would be all-in.

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I say give up, any bet commits the rest of your stack with air. These are the types of hands I regret when I look back on cash sessions and realize there were a couple of hands that were big mistakes and put a big hole in my earnings. There are enough opportunities to make money, you dont have to force it here for your whole stack with air.

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John Kugelman Reply:
November 19th, 2009 at 8:43 am

I agree. I also find my biggest leak is barreling multiple streets after 3-betting preflop and then whiffing. I feel compelled to continue and stack off with nothing. It seems like a good idea when I’m doing it (“he has to put me on top pair or better!”) but it’s such unnecessary spew in retrospect.

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black fair Reply:
November 19th, 2009 at 8:46 am

i don’t think we should even fire the first barrel if we aren’t going to fire a turn card that adds a substantial number of outs to our hand.

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John Kugelman Reply:
November 19th, 2009 at 8:49 am

Additional thought: this isn’t a regular c-bet that got called, this is a c-bet in a 3-bet pot. There’s a huge difference. If you’re only thinking about what hand you’re repping–apparently that’s whatever cards happen to hit the board; and aren’t given any consideration to your opponent’s serious show of strength–raising, calling a 3-bet, and calling a flop bet; then you might as well play blindfolded.

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samo Reply:
November 19th, 2009 at 9:25 am

In general I agree with your line of thinking. A couple of caveats though. The ‘strength-raising’ comes from an open-raiser on the button w/agg image. Call of the 3-bet may be very well due to position. I think the size of the flop bet was a mistake, and may have given the v hope that they are ahead. Perhaps a flop bet of ~$75-85 indicates more strength. Since hero did fire a large barrel, I think we need one more, not only to try and take down the pot, but maintain the TAG image for future play in the session.

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I too will fire another barrel here. And it is really less about “repping a hand” rather than playing my distribution in a consistent way.

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Answer: Fire another barrel.

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Checking will mean you’ll are either check/folding or check/raising. If you are check/raising it would have been more for value that bluffing as you give the button odds to call. Check/folding seems weak to me seeing that you reraised PF.

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Betting less than half pot:
1. Doing this to block bet and re-evaluate the river. Seems weak to me also it just shows a lot of weakness. You will have to fold to a reraise. Seems like you’re just giving them money.

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Fire another barrel. You reraised the PFR’er you are representing AJ+, TT+. Checking here will surely mean you will have to fold to a bet by the button. Double Barrelling with 9 outs is a fairly standard semi-bluff. You also keep FE.

Problem is if you bet over half pot you will have about 25% of your stack left (~$100) if he reraises you AI you are getting 8:1 pot odds to call on a 4:1 chance of hitting your draw. Might as well go all-in at this point and keep the pressure on.

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I say give up. He is not calling the flop with nothing and if he called the flop with flush draws He has got there. We have nothing but the nut flush draw as an ace might not be good anyway and don’t try to donate the remaining 2/3 of our stack just let go the 1/3 we have invested.

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Push, and he will fold anything worse than AK, which is about 90% of his range. If not, we still have 9 outs to hit our nut flush.

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these quizzes often seem to put us in a situation we like to think we would not have got into ourselves! I don’t like the bet size on the flop, but following on from that, we can’t do anything other than raise/get it in, or shove just over pot with more fold equity. Obviously you should not be 3betting OOP, then c-betting just under pot, if you don’t know what you do on the turn after being flat-called – especially if you pick up 9 more outs! Check/folding makes the whole line total spew, but it might be the best play if you ignore the preflop and flop line.

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