
Game type: $100 1r 1a on Full Tilt Poker
Stage of tourney: Early stages
Your image: TAG
Opponent’s image: No strong read
Your hand: K♦9♦
The setup: You’re right around a starting stack in the $100 one rebuy / one add on tournament on Full Tilt when the following hand comes up.
You’re dealt a suited K9 in the SB. The table folds to the button, who calls. You call and the BB checks. You whiff:
J♣J♠T♣
The table checks around and the turn brings the 7♥. You check and so do both opponents. The river pairs you with the 9♣.
You check, the BB checks, and the button bets the pot. What’s your play?
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Early in the tourney, small pot and only 2-1 on a call. I think a J or 10 is betting the turn from the button. Bluff aside, the v beats hero with an 8, 2 clubs, and A9. I’d fold. No strong read and short-stack keeps me from making a play and raising here.
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Call. V will not bet marginal hand, only strong hand or air. I’m thinking air here. Fold if bb raises.
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Insta fold.
There is no point calling in this spot in my opinion. I just don’t think we are ahead enough of the time to call a pot size bet and what we gain by making the hero call here and being right is outweighed by the negatives of being wrong.
The only options I’d consider here are bluffing or folding and this just isn’t the spot to bluff.
Our opponent has us well covered, raising here just isn’t going to fold our opponent out and its not very believable given the action.
Fold and move on.
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Interesting spot. Pity we don’t know a bit more about our opponent. If we think our opponent is likely to take stabs at a pot then a call could be good here.
Raising as a bluff here seems awful, as I don’t see us folding out a straight or better, which he’s going to have fairly often. There are very few weak made hands he can be holding and I would tend to agree with groundhog that his range is quite polarised. Plus we really wouldn’t be representing any believable hand.
Readless though, I think I would just fold
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Wow, I’m not used to being in the nitty opinion here. Just fold. I suppose it is hard to imagine what the button has, maybe 8-x, maybe KQ or a flush draw and he’s just never aggro on draws. There’s clearly nothing he’s betting for value that we beat, and people don’t bluff enough on rivers in general.
As far as check-raising, there’s nothing strong we would be checking twice either, so I doubt we’re betting anyone off of a hand.
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catcher Reply:
October 25th, 2009 at 2:54 am
People in $100 1r 1a tourneys don’t bluff enough on rivers?
Especially big-stacked people on the button, on a scary board that both short-stacked blinds have checked to river, petrified?
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If the button had some kind of show down value he would just check and see if he’s/she’s picked up the pot. So they have a huge hand or nothing. Why risk any chips with such a big stack on a dangerous board with nothing and because it’s a potential £300 investment in the tourney I’m assuming the standard is quite good with no beginners. So I discount the button has nothing especially as it’s such a tempting bet to repop. He can also assume that sb and bb are weak cos nobody has bet. If you had a trips on a connected flop you would bet so he’s flopped the full house or flush drawing which he hit on the river. He doesn’t have a straight because he wouldn’t bet into such a scary board. He wouldn’t put them on the full house if he has hit the flush because they would bet it on such a connected board. So for me he has full house or most likely the flush. He could be an idiot and the hero call is good but 9 out of ten times you are beat.
Please feel free to add any other thoughts to consider.
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The only reason to call is because it won’t significantly change your M (still just over 20) if you lose and you’ll get a better read on the opponent. Also I think the flush draw and trips would have bet the turn, so let’s see either the 8 or 9T.
Voted fold though.
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Jesus,that´s what I call a tiny thin call.
Does this call work 1 in 3 times? If villain is one of those players who is capable of going for thin river value bets,then I think we can call there as 33% the time we are right.
Being villain a ABC poker player or a nitty,there is no value calling.
So with no specific reads on villain the default move should be a FOLD.
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