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Anything but fold. You can’t fold JJ for 30BB. $100 tourneys are really aggressive preflop. The standard play is to re-shove here.

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20bb effective, co has pot committed himself, just get it in.

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alekhine11 Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:57 am

Exactly,for those reasons FOLD.

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Pete Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

lol at fold. If you fold here then CO can 3bet atc and totally destroy you. The only way this is a fold is if he’s only 3betting JJ+, AK which is obviously ridiculous.

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re-shove for sure. get rid of his positional advantage.

I would estimate about equal chances you are up against a higher or lower pair; otherwise you are a slight favorite against higher cards, a bigger favorite against Ax Kx (x < J) hands and a huge favorite against AJ KJ or QJ. And probably small chance you are up against a hand that is folding.

Add it all up and it is an easy decision.

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I’m folding. Hero image is TAG and the v 3-bets 35% of stack. I’d give them credit for 99+ and AK. Re-buy period is closed, so I don’t feel like gambling here. If you do, shoving is the only other viable play. Call and evaluate the flop is not, because flopping under-cards may not help if you are up against QQ+. Call and shove all flops – might as well shove pre-flop – unlikely, but you may get a fold.

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John Kugelman Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

Being a TAG doesn’t make this a fold. Smart players are more likely to 3-bet tight players light as tight players fold too often. If you’ll fold JJ to a 3-bet you’re gonna get run over.

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samo2 Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

The image is TAG, not TP (Passive). I have to respect a committed 4-bet to a villain who we have no read on. On the other hand, v knows a 4-bet will induce AG hero to shove a hand like JJ. I think hero is behind here.

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catcher Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

Against 99+, AK our equity is 48.13%, and given the money in the middle fold would be certainly -EV. You’d need to be able to narrow the range down to AA-QQ, AK in order for this to be a correct fold.

Anyway, for me it is a choice between shipping and folding, and here I will shove.

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you dont reshove here in fear of a hand such as ak aq now he might have qq kk aa but you cant guarantee that but in reality he very well could have 77 88 99 1010 here so you have to see the flop and then evaluate

that is the prob with this game today everyone is so eager to just shove shove shove!!!

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catcher Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 1:33 pm

I fail to see what’s the benefit of seeing the flop OOP here against a committed opponent? What kind of a flop are you hoping for (bar hitting a set or stronger)? If it’s all rags, we will surely ship, no? And they will surely call with all hands they were raising with PF, no? And if an overcard falls, would you really check and fold JJ to a c-bet of 2,600 into the pot of 3,500?

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Ox Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

I dont normally want to see the flop with a hand like this. What if it comes with aces kings or queens? you gonna fold away your chips?

Protect your hand and shove. If he has a better pair, thats just bad luck, but you can’t fold out of fear of a coin-flip.

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Jacks are hard to play in any level of a tourney. A raise in front of you with from a larger stake could be opening with a large range of hands. If this is the best hand you have seen in a while, definitely play it. X

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