Daily Hand Quiz

I vote check here simply because you already flat call on the turn when you hit your ace. If you wanted to show aggression, you should have raised on the turn to see whether your ace was good. The fact that you simply called has already made you check on the river. Imagine now if he was slow playing the Q and you lead on the river, he will reraise you and you will be pot committed to pay him off. If you check, and he leads, you will still have to pay him off, but this way, you keep the pot small.

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lead to fold if raised and check to call is similar imo

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I looked at the texture and voted lead. If I were looking to make a *bad* bluff in the SB in this spot, that 3 would be terrible. Having played all three streets so weekly makes betting at the 3 look like a steal. So, if we are raised, we evaluate the player and our reads and determine whether they have the sack to get jiggy on the river with nothing.

But, the more likely scenario is either a) button folds, or b) button calls with a 9 or weaker Ace. We have too much value with this hand to miss a bet on the end.

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Voted check. Hero’s call on the turn represents an Ace. If the TAG v has slow-played a Q, then you are falling into a trap by leading the riv. If the v does not have a Q, they likely will not call your lead unless they have KK. More to lose by leading, nothing to gain, so check-call.

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Leading could be a bluff with a missed straight/flush draw. I expect to get called by most pocket pairs and weaker aces, hands which will simply check behind if allowed. Checking could induce a bluff, but it also misses a lot of value when the villain has one pair.

It is important on this board not to polarize our range so that we’re only betting trip queens or complete air and checking with pairs because we’ll have nothing so much more often than trips. That’d make bluffing really unprofitable if we never bet our aces or pocket pairs for “thin” value. This is a spot where we’ll get called by worse a lot, so bet.

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black fair Reply:
September 13th, 2009 at 11:50 pm

“Checking could induce a bluff, but it also misses a lot of value when the villain has one pair.”

This is definately the key.

I think however given our TAG image and our opponents aggressiveness there are actually more spots where are opponent bets with a worse hand after we check the river than spots where he calls a lead with a worse hand.

Our opponents bet on the turn is pretty much a given with any two cards at this point. The Ace was a great card to bluff at when we checked.

So our opponents range is very wide. Our range however is quite narrow. A tag check-calling that turn card has some thing. Maybe its pockets in hole, a weak ace, a nine, or, less likley, an open ended draw. But the TAG does have -something-.

When the TAG player then leads the river, rather than check-calling, its pretty bad play to look them up with a weak ace or a nine. A TAG just isn’t leading the river with a hand that doesn’t beat that.

My point is that we narrow our range massively by leading the river. By checking the river we keep our range more open.

Therefore I think our aggressive opponent is more likely to pay us off when we check-call rather than we lead.

Finally there is also the consideration of the slow played hand. If we lead this river we really don’t want to get raised.

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Jeff Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 10:27 pm

You switched our image and the v’s. We’re aggressive, they are TAG.

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black fair Reply:
September 15th, 2009 at 12:02 am

Ah yes. That does make a difference.

I agree with John in that case, a TAG is often checking through here with hands that we beat that would call a river bet so we miss value by not betting our ace.

I doubt any nines will call us, but most aces will and any re-raise we face will be almost always be from a better hand.

I’d lead for about 1/3rd pot.

I voted lead because I would beleive that I hand the best hand. If you dont bet you dont get payed off

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Lead for about half the pot. If you get raised consider getting out.

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I vote for a new quiz.

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I vote for a new quiz. What part of “daily” dont i understand?

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apparently it’s like the movie “Groundhog Day,” right groundhog day?

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I voted for a new quiz

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