
Game type: .50/1 6 max cash, Full Tilt Poker
Your image: First hand
Opponent’s image: Deuces Cracked instructor fslexcduck
Your hand: T♠9♥
The setup: It’s your first hand at this 6 max no limit cash table on Full Tilt Poker. You post a seat or two away from the BB and get an offsuit T9. UTG folds and you check. The table folds to the BB, a well-known online pro, who checks. You flop a pair:
5♦T♦Q♠
The BB leads for 2.50 and you call. You turn a second pair:
9♦.
The BB leads for $7.50. You call. The river is the 7♠.
Now the BB shoves for $89.
What’s your play? If you fold, what’s the minimum hand you’d need to call?
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Voted fold. Pot-sized and overbets throughout, so could be a set, small flush, two pair, a Q, or total air. You are beating a couple of those, but in an un-raised pot the v range is obviously wide from BB. 1st hand – fold, get some reads and live to play again.
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68 for the straight, Q7 for two pairs over the top, etc.
If your two pair were enough for you to bang this pot, then why only a call when you made it?
Fold, and if you disagree, then you should have taken this down on the turn.
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Fold.
Good opponents rarely massivly overbet with a bluff simply because it is such a negative EV situation, on the otherhand, it is wellknown that if you have something nutty you can shove if both players have deepstacks, simply because even if your opponent folds most of the time it will still be more profitible when they call once in a long time because getting their whole stack once every 5 times is more plus ev than getting them to call a pot sized bet 3 every five times.
As to what I would call with, I’m not sure, this bet really spooks me, it really looks like he has something nutty, Im not sure I would call with a set….i couldnt really see him shoving with anything I could beat, i might call with a strait, I dunno.
BTW, why is a wellknown online pro playing at .50/1?
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Too many really strong hands possible for him to feel comfortable shoving without a hand that beats two pair.
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When someone makes an overbet shove like this they’re thinking one of two things:
1. This guy has a hand he can’t get away from no matter how much I bet and I’ve got him crushed so just ship it.
2. This guy’s only going to call an overbet shove with the absolute nuts and the way he’s played this hand shows he can’t have that. So even though this is terrible for me if he calls my bluff, I can afford to bluff shove because he’s never ever calling.
Although we don’t appear to have the nuts, since we’ve only just sat down he can’t be sure we won’t call with something mediocre like we have. In addition, by sitting in EP and posting we’ve given ourselves the image of a bad, loose player. Therefore scenario 1. is really the only possibility.
Clear fold.
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Oh and for the second part of the question, I’d need something very strong. I can’t believe he’d take this line with 55, he’d need to know that we were awful to make that profitable, at the moment he just suspects we are. Likewise with a straight he’d have to worry we’d call with a flush as often as with a weaker hand when he makes such a big river bet. So I’d be looking to only call with a very strong flush. Probably exploitable, but since he knows very little about us I don’t think he’s going to be levelling us by bluff-shoving wide.
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Nice 1 Pete is a good exlpanation
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I voted fold. We can attempt to narrow down our opponents hand range but the reality is that he could have ANYTHING. Both of us are seeing the flop because we had to post a blind. Im putting him on two pair Qx. The pot size bet on the flop meant he may have been a tad scared about the diamond flush draw, and he would have probably bet about 2/3 to 3/4 of the pot had he been on a legitimate flush possibility. Fold the hand. there are so many marginal/junk hands that can beat you in this situation and its just a hand you dont want to be getting involved with.
Trips is the minimum calling hand
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Table sakes: $.50-$1
“The table checks to the BB, a well known online pro…”
What
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