Daily Hand Quiz

Voted Raise…

Opponents pre flop range would be quite tight if he’s a strong regular so we can rule out hands like mid connectors and maybe low pockets depending on his play style.

He very well could be play High Aces or maybe JJ’s.

Our hand atm is 4th best behind 10′s and KK’s and JQ (which i doubt he would play in EP).

Our call is $16 into a $36 pot… I think our EV is quite positive. I think it warrants a raise for Value.

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Call.

I’d be looking to check-call this hand down. Bottom set on this board cannot really take a lot of heat.

If we raise here our image means that our opponent isn’t likley to continue with a worse hand.

By calling we allow our opponent to fire that third barrel with a ton of hands he would’ve laid down to a turn raise from a TAG including a lot of missed draws, top pair top kicker, QQ/JJ/AA hands, etc.

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Anonymous Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 12:26 am

The problem is though it’s a pretty wet board, i would raise for board control.

With that many outs for opponent to see to possibly improve his hand on the river i would rather push him now.

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black fair Reply:
August 6th, 2009 at 1:03 am

Raise for board control?

You won’t have control if he re-raises/shoves you back. You’d call a re-raise shove here with bottom set? What if he flat calls your re-raise and bets into you again on the river? Do you still think you’re ahead?

I don’t see how you can raise for value here because its my opinion that a strong regular does not call OOP with a hand you beat.

This is a spot where you want to keep the pot small and maximize your positional advantage.

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I’ll raise here. Likelihood of set over set on the flop is <1%, so I’m putting the v on AK, AQ, KQ, K10, JJ, 88, or QJ. We are behind the latter, however I think this holding is unlikely. The board is dangerous, so make them pay to draw. If the riv is a blank, we are not going to get additional value from this type of player unless they have a set of 8s, so let’s see if we can extract some here. Calling gets them a riv card which may beat us. Folding is not an option.

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My question here is, what does Strong Regular mean? A strong player could mean tight aggressive like the first anonymous player posted. Or, a strong player could be someone who is mixing up their play in 6-max by raising UTG with any two broadway cards, high suited connectors, etc.

Personally, I think the early raiser who has made two c-bets could have higher trips but is just as likely to have a pair with a draw.

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The pot and raise amounts don’t really add up? What was the PF raise so that the pot would be $10 at flop? And then original raiser bets 6 into it that we end up calling (making the pot $22 at turn) and now another 16 into it would be $38 not $36.

Anyway, I go for a minraise.

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I would raise here, that seems to be the natural inclination, and, though I’ve read good arguments for calling from Black Fair, I’d disagree.
Your opponents most likely hands holdings are AA, AK, KQ, KJ or K10, and you are beating all of them, he very simply seems to be playing this hand like a top pair, top kicker, hand,
Set Over Set is extremely unlikely, and if he is a strong regular, he prolly would have checked three kings on the flop, (keep in mind, as a strong regular, he has no idea what you have, as you have not shown any strength, and no idea he is gonna get paid off with three kings) I could see him raising preflop with 1010 and then betting again when he flopped a set, but that also is unlikely, simply because it is so hard to flop a set,
He could be playing QJ, and you are behind to that, but you do have a strong redraw, and again, that’s a very unlikely hand, the 8 prolly didnt help him at all, it doesnt complete a strait, if he was on a draw for a strait hes should have had the eight, I could see a tricky player raising preflop with 87, and betting the draw, but that means he is still drawing. Another probability, though unlikely, is he has a the AQ of spades, for a monster draw, but thats quite unlikely.
So, in summary, you are beating the vast majority of his hands, and his most likely hands, more-over, if you make a small raise here, they prolly will pay you off, (make just over a mini-raise, as a mini-raise screams strength to an experianced player, so put in a few dollars over a mini-raise), so a small raise here on the turn, and a little suck-bet on the river, (assuming a blank comes), will usually get u paid off nicely.
Black Fair says that you will get more money from the hands you are beating by just calling this one down, but I dont beleive so, a good player prolly will attempt to check an overpair or a top pair top kicker type hand on the river against this baord and agaisnt a good opponent (keep in mind, he is a good player who knows u r good as well), and if you just call here, and he checks and you make a suck-bet on the river, well that line just screams “I have a big hand,” and i doubt a good player would fire a third barrel on the river anyway, if you called twice.
If you shoves after you raise here on the turn, you are gonna have to tank, and prolly fold, and if he raises again on the river, you might have to fold, depending on your reads, and waht is going on.

But yeah, it’s gotten to the poiint where I am rambiling…the point is you can get a lot of value here most of the time, with a psuedo-min raise here and a suck bet on the river.

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Believe it or not i voted call here. I dont think villian will call our raise on the turn without a really strong hand here and their is the possibility that he reraises you and then you dont have the odds to call for the full house.

I think you need to call this turn and value bet the river if he checks to you as i dont see him checking it down without anything that beats you.

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