Daily Hand Quiz

Raise 3x.

I think this is pretty much a “how much to raise” question.

Calling is bad because as a big stack who is a little loose his range is pretty wide. You can presume he’s not opening UTG with air but a lot of speculative hands are credibly in his range. You don’t want to let him see a flop cheaply.

So how much to raise?

With his stack size and loose image plus an under the gun raise we can assume he’s keen to see a flop. Of course probably not so much that he will call a shove given our image. I don’t see a 3x re-raise scaring him off, but I do see him folding a lot of flops so we have to extract our maximum value pre-flop by a healhty re-raise.

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With our call the pot becomes 12,600 which is 22% of our remaining stack. I’d just call here and CRAI any flop to get one more bet out of the loose V as I think any reraise here given our stack will kill the action (3betting 3x puts over 20% of our stack out there OOP).

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The way I see final tables is that any hand we play should be played aggressively. Its not about small ball poker now – you should be ready to commit your stack and force other people to commit theirs any hand you play if you want to win this thing.

I don’t see a 3x raise killing the action here. A loose big stack who raised UTG will want to see a flop heads up in position every time. They’ll call your 3x and play poker on the flop. Check-raise them then if you’re into that sort of thing.

A flat call and checked flop allows any two cards to see the turn for the cost of a min-raise. That’s terrible and just inviting your aces to be cracked.

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Raising also gives the big stack a chance to bully you and shove over the top of you either with a premium hand like AK/KK/QQ or with the intention of simply folding out the TAG.

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Im with Richard;let this aggresive player play at you and then check raise him.

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I can see the arguement for every move except fold

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@ Richard P

I personally would hope I can get 20% of my stack in (even OOP). I have aces. Nothing wrong with getting your stack in as a big favorite. This really is a how much to raise problem and I voted under 3x. I think a 3x raise is fine, but a little under 3x allows room to encourage a 3 bet from UTG.

I don’t like the shove at all because you narrow the range of hands that are going to call you/play with you. I also hate flatting here because calling OOP with aces is a great way to lose money. We know hero is ahead right now, build up the pot a bit.

Finally, sure a re-raise from a TAG player might scare villain out. But even a loose player is showing some strength when he/she raises UTG. And a TAG might try to raise-steal in this spot with 87s, JTs etc. since everyone else folded, with our (non-steal) credible raising range being somewhere from 99-AA and AJs-AK. Ergo, raise and try to get villain to make a mistake.

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I voted call due to the variance in stack sizes. A raise here is committal and may get the v to fold – our image is TAG. While adding ~10K to our stack is good, I think we can maximize the return by seeing the flop. I’d lead into the flop for 8.2K, hoping that the board brings a tempting card to the v, who may stack-off.

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Call for the same reasons.

Our tight image could kill the action.
Be in a better place to check raise.

As Bert said, any strategy might work.

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Raise to 2.5xhis raise ie 5xBB ie to 14k.

I like raising TO 2.5xhis raise here, because it gives you the ability to get a lot of opponents chips in with small to medium raises on later streets while still leaving you to determine while keeping in some loose hands preflop while not looking overly suspicious like a min raise.

Possible lines:

1. call, bet 1/3 pot, bet 1/3 pot on turn , bet 1/4 pot river. That will get most of our stack involved against a loose , non-aggressive opponent.

2.raise 2.5xraise, pot is 31k you have 46k left, bet 1/3 pot on flop pot is 41k, your stack is 36k, you bet 2/5 pot on turn pot is 50k stack is 27k behind , shove or value bet river.

3.raise 3xraise, pot is 38k, you have 42k behind, flop: bet 1/3 pot, pot 51k, you have 30k, shove turn.

All these lines can be modified for a draw heavy board by betting out opponent earlier.

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raise 3x

black fair explained it well

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I don’t think it matters much.

The difference b/n 2.5 and 3x isn’t going to determine a call or fold.

If the options were to raise 2.5-3x or shoving, now that’s a different story.

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I just call and I check raise him all in on the flop unless it is a very scary flop like a high pair showing (KKQ or 3 of the same suit and you don’t have the ace of that suit)

I slow play these donks all the time

guarantee he raises when you check if he is really aggressive

these donks will fold to pre-flop pressure from someone tight but they will push all in with nothing

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Personally if this was a high level of play, and i thought my opponent was good, i’d flat call.

This could easily by interpreted as calling for pot odds, so if the flop had a high card like K or Q, i’d check call the flop, if it was draw heavy, i’d lead out or check raise (as we called “for pot odds”) he might suspect we are on the draw, and could lead, if he was on the draw he might try a semi-bluff.

If you raise and he is a good player, he reviews the action: He min-raises UTG (extremely strong move, good players can use this as a cheap bluff, but it still shows strength) then a TAG player re-raises, after everyone folds, when the TAG player knows he will play the hand out off position.

A good player, LAG or otherwise will be having a good hard look at his pocket jacks right now, you are unlikely to get paid.

Against a donk, just reraise and don’t expect a call, expect an all-in.

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Raise it to 12000 about min-raise and bet 2/3 all flop, all in on the turn.

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