May 22, 2012

Daily Hand Quiz

DailyHandQuiz

Game type: $75 buyin MTT, Full Tilt Poker
Stage of tourney: Early
Your image: Fairly aggressive
Opponent’s image: Aggressive
Your hand: K♦K♣

The setup: You’ve built a strong stack for early stage play with a lot of small pots and few showdowns. You’ve had a couple of minor skirmishes with your opponent but nothing huge.

This hand you get KK and raise to 3x preflop from the CO and the button calls; the blinds fold and you hit the flop:

A♠K♥J♥

You bet $475 into 750; the button calls. The turn is the 3♠.

What’s your play?

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12 COMMENTS  (Jump to comment form)

blackfair


Lead half pot to pot.

The temptation is to check to induce a bet from an aggressive opponent but I don’t think you can allow the chance to miss a street of value with trip kings especially considering how many draws are on the board.

We’ve got an aggressive image so lets just do what is expected of us and lead for a decent amount.

If the opponent has hit the flop hard they are likely to re-raise us and then it all goes into the middle which is ideal providing we’re not on an absolute cooler against AA/Q10.

If the opponent is drawing we want to maximise value on the turn because if they call and the river blanks then all we can really do is check the river to induce a bluff – most of the time we are not going to get any further value.

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runefs


There might be a lot of draws but a made hand better than ours is unlikely sure opp could have AA but then his call on the flop was weak. QT would have been weak pre. So
Against any of the possible draws we actually have a better chance of improving than they do Heart draw has 7 outs, Spade 6 and a string 4. Whereas we with 10 cards that’ll improve not only very possibly have the best hand right now but also the best chance of improving. Id usually bet ½-2/3 but might vary with a check raise. Eventhouugh I’d hate to see a card that completes one of the draws and does not fill my house i’d be willing once in a while to risk it.

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Richard P


Bet the turn ~ 1200 so our all in on river is only 75% of pot so that opp can call thinking his slowplayed AJ is going to be good at least 30% of the time against a fairly aggressive opponent.

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samo2


Voted with the majority … the board is too dangerous to chance a CR and offer a freebie. Image is fairly agg so like Richard I’d lead for $1200. Frankly I’m hoping to take it down. Will get called (or raised) by AJ, and potentially AQ. Q10,AA,JJ,AK are unlikely holdings.

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Loki


Didn’t we have this quiz recently?

Pretty simple situation to me. Bet 2/3 the pot so you price out draws, hope your opponent semi-bluff raises you and shove all-in.

If your opponent has AA that’s about 119-1 against for simultaneous sets so I wouldn’t worry about it and if someone has QT he/she is a donk for calling with it pre-flop.

I think checking here is a terrible play. Terrible. The semi-bluff raise is essentially standard now. Bet.

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Don


I voted overbet because a half-pot bet was the only offer. I agree with betting around 1500, which is almost pot, and gives drawing hands the wrong price to call, but also allows me to shove the river and get a call from AK, AQ, JJ, and KJ, but I probably won’t get a call from worse hands here on the turn anyway. I really don’t want to give AhXh a cheap card, and can’t imagine KsXs being available, so the nut spade draw is unlikely.

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dick


A small bet here would look weak and gives the other guy a chance to come over the top to try and steal it, in which case we’d shove. It also gives him a price to try and hit his draw, in which case we have 2 of each suit covered with our fullhouse outs, making us a 85% favorite over either flush draw. The small bet on the turn makes us the most money.

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DavSchweiger


You flop a set of Kings and you bet into the button? First I would have CHECKED and you KNOW he’s betting, whether or not he has an ace since you said he was AGGRESSIVE. Then you could smooth call or check raise depending on his bet. If he has AK or AQ, you probably have his whole stack. Definitely go all in before the river in you don’t check raise all in because of straight and flush possibilities.

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Loki


@ Dav

You could use the same logic on the flop to say that the button would raise you because he/she is aggressive. Betting also takes away the option of letting the button catch a free look at the turn.

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blackfair


@ dick

I think a small bet here for those reasons is a okay but its a little on the fancy side. Firstly I think its arguable whether or not we make more money. By not building a smaller pot on the turn the amount we can bet for value on the river is exponentially smaller.

Also its important at this stage of the tourney to maintain your image. You’re playing aggressive with few show downs so far so you want to keep playing aggressive and betting strongly when you have as good a hand as this.

@ Dav

Checking into the aggressive button would be the right play if our image was tight. But our image is aggressive and slightly loose (given the fact we have won lots of small pots) so a c-bet on that flop is a must.

We are not going to get trip kings very often. Here we have it with a board that hits so much of the opponents range its not funny. So we hammer that pot to build it as quickly as possible.

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McGowish


Lead half of pot to pot,

If you check, it will look suspicious given your fairly aggressive image and given that your expectation of your aggressive opponent is to bet if you check the turn. This would mean that your flop bet was actually a continuation bet. This is not easily believiable in my opinion; given that so many that one would raise hit that flop and you are stated, “nah, I whiffed and I’ll let you know I whiffed.” Or, “yeah, I got a piece of it, but not a strong piece and I just want to check-call it down”. Neither of those two reasons are conducive to him bluffing because you are telling him it won’t work.

If you lead for less than half pot, it will just look weird and kind of suspicous and probably get called if he hit a good piece and folded to if he has air. It may induce a reraise on a less dangerous board by a bluff and it will from a non-thinking opponent; if E is in your judgement stupid or maniac you probably should throw out the fake blocker bet, but if he seems above average in intelligence it isn’t the best play.

Overbetting is the closest in my opinion to leading half of pot to pot. The problem with overbetting the pot is that if we overbet and he bluffs, if he’s wrong…he’s gone from the tournament, and I think with our preflop, flop, and turn raises combined with the broadway board, it is probable you have a made hand and thus a bluff won’t work. He will assess the risk, not want to risk his tournament in the face of such strength with a bluff and likely fold. If he has a made hand also, he might go with you, but you would have gotten much of him anyways on the river

By leading half of pot to pot he continue to act in line with our image, we pressure the (unlikely but possible) heart draw, and in my opinion give the best representation that we may be bluffing, which can induce lesser hands to call reraise us here and on the river.

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Drooo82


Honey He called my raise with Q10off..

Idiot player over there.. lol..

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