Daily Hand Quiz

hey, look – a table!

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except it says 6 left but there are only five seats in the picture.

voted shove. KQs is always going to be behind, but you’re running out of spots so time to gamble.

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DHQ interpretation irrelevant since you’ve already made the 1st bubble (according to text, which is probably the real error)

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I totally agree with Stassod.

…………………I think.

P.S. Easy all in.

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Given the dynamics, easy call.

BTW, can we get some non-holdem quizzes every now and then? PLO would be great…

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Doesn’t matter to me if you have 6 or 5 people at the table. Your stack is tiny and KQs is the best thing you are going to see before you bleed out. You also have less than M=2, so I would ship with any 2 cards that are remotely reasonable.
Blackfair, how in the world is KQs “always going to be behind?” You are thinking about this as if it’s a 9-10 handed game. 5 handed KQs is often going to be the best hand, even in the face of a raise (and it is the favorite here over both hands, although only by a small margin).
Anyway, it’s an easy all-in. The real question is how you let your stack get this low.

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@ loki

It certainly is an easy all in.

But,do you really think that,BEFOREHAND, KQs is a favourite against,say,A3 off?.It turned out that in this SPECIFIC situation KQs plays well and is a slightly favourite against both hands,BUT NO agAinst both hands COMBINED
KQ=38%.66=33%;A9=29% SO your equity in this hand is 38% v 62%.You need to hit the board to win,THEY DONT.

And finally it can be several reasons for you to get this short,….SUCKOUTS.

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A PLO quiz would have to have a permanent

[ ] ship it

option.

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I voted fold, but after reading staffs analysis, I have to agree. Its worth a shot at winning the hand and slimming the sb’s chance of doubling up because if us and the sb both get knocked, we make the money anyway. And if the sb beats the co without us in the hand, its going to be much tougher for us.

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I just don’t see how, even as short as we are, we can call here. We’re dominated too many times, IMHO, and like Alekhine says, you’re worse than a 60/40 dog versus both.

I think I punt and shove the SB. KQ is a strong holding for us, but with a raise and a call (technically a reraise, but it’s 25 chips), our hand doesn’t play well, I don’t think. I’ll shove ATC with 3BB left next hand and hope for better luck. Also, there aren’t antes, so we have a few hands to wait for the shove.

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sorry guys, some problems with the HH converter this week, should be all cleared up now.

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I agree with Don.

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Calling and folding have about the same probability to sneak into the money (~2/3 if you call, ~1/2 + (1/2)*the chance of survival if the SB doubles, if you fold), but the only way you have a real shot at making the next step is to call.

Calling gives you 1/3 to bubble, 1/3 to cash, and 1/3 to cash and have a 10BB stack.

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How shit is everyones chat here.

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Might be missing something but unless the CO’s moved to two behind the button, the CO folded. As far as the quiz goes, it’s a tough one but considering the position I’d probably call – a 2bb shove in the SB or button is going to be barely worth the effort.

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@ Loki

KQs is junk. I’d play it in an unraised pot or from late position only. Facing a raise and a shove you’re always going to be behind. Always. Every single time.

Maybe the CO is playing lowing suited connectors aggressively, maybe, but thats at the very weakest end of his range. The majority of his range has you dominated.

Furthermore the SB could just wait this out, he knows your almost pot committed already with your own small blind still to pay. He could sit this out and wait an orbit and be almost guaranteed to finish ahead of you. Instead he shoved which guarantees he’s carrying an ace or a pocket pair.

So its three way, facing a raise and a shove, your KQs is junk. Total junk. While I said you may as well play it given stack sizes, if your opponents hands were face up you’d have to fold hoping the SB busts out.

Also:
KQs vs 66 is 49.05% vs 50.53%
KQs vs A9o is 45% vs 54%

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actually I guess I made a mistake, even with all the cards face up you should still shove.

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All-in

My reasoning is near exactly that of DHQ. The only difference is weighing the predicted percentage of attainment times the prize (none, 3rd , 4th step), adding them up, and comparing for the 2 scenarios: calling allin here, vs folding. DHQ makes the case for calling, that by calling and slashing SB’s chance of winning (giving possibly 3-4 overcards instead of 1-2 from the CO) you increase your chances of making 3rd step again.

If you don’t call and SB wins, you will need to double through 2x to get on even footing with him. So does the loss of tourny survival by going into a 3-way hand and that hurting yourIt could be a multiway pot as well.

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I voted fold but I regret.
The only SB holding that would make a shove a bad thing is an over pair or a hand dominating overs and lets face it There’s just not that many AAs, AKs or KKs out there.

we’re not playing for our odds to win but for SBs odds to loose.

Most likely it’ll be 2* 2 overs against a pair or 3 hands of high cards in both cases we’re correct to call. Eventhough we might very well bust if we call.

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@ the Loki haters

Sure, KQs is absolute junk 9 or 10 handed. But 5-6 handed a suited, connected K becomes much stronger because people start playing speculative stuff like KJs, QJs and frequently QT, KT, K9, T9, J9 etc.

Furthermore, your chance of getting two random cards that are better than KQs in the next 5 hands (before you have to shove with any two cards in the BB next circuit) is very slim.

There’s no point in calling because you barely have any money and would be forced to shove in the SB with almost anything. Also, if you shoved next hand in the SB the BB would be getting great odds to call you with almost anything. Too many people are basing their answer on what the opponents actually had. 66 and A9 are much stronger than the range of what your opponent could have here. Besides, you need a triple-up anyway. Hope to catch a K or Q or backdoor something. Sometimes you just have to get lucky to win.

Finally, the fact that the CO had something as decent as A9 is irrelevant since a deep stack in this position will raise 3x with air. Against a smaller pair KQs is a straight race anyway, so take the coin flip while you have it. Push it in.

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yes, yes but you shove because of stack sizes and to reduce the small blinds chance of winning. you could almost argue this is an any two cards shove.

you do not shove because KQs is a good hand. 5-6 handed it is still not a good hand in this spot. if you had a decent stack here you would fold.

being 5-6 handed does not mean you start playing KQs out of position when faced by a mid-position raise.

The only value in KQs is when you see a flop cheaply.

lol @ playing QT, KT, K9, T9, J9. You think people raise a 1/7th of their stack with that mid position do you?

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