February 10, 2012

Daily Hand Quiz

DailyHandQuiz

Game type: PokerStars $650 WSOP Qualifier
Stage of tourney: Early
Your image: Tight
Opponent’s image: Winning regular
Your hand: Q♦Q♥

The setup: You haven’t been involved in much but have bled off a few chips in this Sunday WSOP satellite when the following hand comes up. You get QQ in the SB. UTG opens for 3x and a EP player calls. It folds around to you and you raise to 480 total.

UTG thinks a bit and then shoves; the caller folds.

What’s your play?

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DHQ Staff says: A pretty ugly spot in a lot of ways. You’re getting 1.6-1 or so to call, so you basically have to ask yourself if a solid player is going to make this move with JJ and AK in additional to QQ+. If you think they do, this is a pretty easy call, as you’re only a slight dog against that range. If you think it’s only QQ+ and AK+, you’re basically getting exactly the right price. Take AK out and you’re obviously getting nowhere near the right price.

I personally think it’s close. Your re-raise from the SB looks strong, but it is a big buy in satellite, and UTG might be thinking he can get you to lay down some of your range. That fact chucks a couple of random smaller pairs and maybe a AQs into his range every now and again, which I think gets you (barely) into profitable calling territory.

What actually happened: You called and were shown AA.


12 COMMENTS  (Jump to comment form)

kaimano


It’s funny the contrast between the optimistic staff analysis and the hard truth of pocket aces being shown. In my opinion even the preflop re-raise was a mistake. Against an UTG raiser I don’t want to play a big pot out of position with queens.

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alekhine11


Easy fold,tough but easy.You got still plenty of time…and chips.

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Richard P


I’d rather lose 480 preflop than my stack postflop when it comes all unders. I also think you have to value 3bet queens in this spot 95% time. I fold to the shove and move onto the next hand.

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Tripps


Agony. I voted fold…but I have a feeling that was just to please the poker gods. I don’t know if I have the discipline to do so in the game. Still, UTG’s shove into TWO players is a monster or suicidal. Too early to give them credit for suicidal, so, I went with monster and folded.

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_CityBorn_


I voted fold for 2 reasons.

First, Im putting him on KK or AA….its just too hard to imagine a solid winning player making this huge move this early against what looks like a very strong reraise from us with JJ or less.

Second, we have 480 chips in there. Theres a lot of poker left to be played. It hurts, but let this one go. Feel out the table and play your best poker….there will be plenty of spots where you can pick up 480 and a lot more down the road.

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tom


Gotta fold. What range of hands does he put a tight player on in this spot to want to shove over(obv for value in this spot)? If he were to be going broke with jj or even ak that early to a nit reraising a utg open from the sb he wouldn’t be a winning reg! maybe if he flats i could understand going broke on a good flop. Tough spot though, but I don’t think there’s two ways about it.

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Bert


call and re evaluate after the flop

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Don


@Bert – Um, not much to re-evaluate when you call the all-in… I voted fold, but have proven that, like Tripps, I can’t do it live. I had KK in a tourney last week with an UTG limp, and I made it 5X (2500 w/500BB) with 10,500 behind. Folded to UTG, who shoved. I looked at him, smiled, shook my head, and said, “You’ve got aces…..” I almost mucked face up but said, “And there’s nothing I can do about it.” and called off my tournament life when he showed me his aces. I knew it, never a doubt, and STILL donkey-called him when faced with the real decision.

It’s one thing to vote the fold in the quiz, but quite another to make the big laydown for real.

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Чебоксары секс по телефону


Интересно, но все же хотелось бы побольше узнать об этом. Понравилась статья!:-)

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Panda


If this was a low buy-in event where there are alot of donkeys who push with anything then I would call

But since this is a $650 WSOP qualifer you would have to assume he either has KK or AA

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McCowish


Our range versus his AKo, JJ+ range, 0.463
The pot is offering .441 needed or better.
Thus we (barely) have the pot odds to justify this call ASSUMING HE MAKES THIS PLAY EVERYTIME WITH JACKS

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McCowish


Our range versus his AKo, JJ+ range, 0.463
The pot is offering .441 needed or better.
Thus we (barely) have the pot odds to justify this call ASSUMING HE MAKES THIS PLAY EVERYTIME WITH JACKS. I find that a rather large assumption. Going allin for the 3rd raise with JJ isn’t bad play, but it’s not standard. I’ll give him 40% as a likelihood, which I feel is not unreasonable for an unknown regular winner.

Our range is suddenly .381 with pot requiring .441, not even close. So unless villain makes this move 90% with jacks, pot odds say we should fold.

Combined with early stage and opponent’s image, lousy pot odds, impaired chance of T survival, this is a necessary fold.

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