February 10, 2012

Daily Hand Quiz

DailyHandQuiz

Game type: Steps satellite, Poker Stars
Stage of tourney: Bubble
Your image: TAG
Opponent’s image: Tight
Your hand: 8♣7♥

The setup: You’re on the bubble of this Steps tournament on PokerStars. The third through fifth place finishers get a re-entry to this step and the top two finishers move up a step.

This hand, the table folds to you on the button. You have 87o. The BB is very short but has a couple more chips than Player A.

What’s your play?

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DHQ Staff says: I think you can gamble here and ship it in. At 600 a round, you’re going to need to pick up chips at some point soon to have any hope of contesting one of the top two spots, and this isn’t a bad opening. Sure, the BB might call wide, but they also are probably looking at the UTG player and figuring they can outlast them. If you do get called by the BB, you’ll win the pot enough of the time, and when you lose you have a good shot at waiting out Player A and sneaking into the money.

Quiz courtesy of PartTimePoker.com


14 COMMENTS  (Jump to comment form)

Mare


HMMM i’d fold personally. good chat?

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Zargon


Voted fold but that was before I noticed A was even shorter than the BB. BB prob thinks that he can outlast A especially with A just coming into the blinds meaning the BB wont want to get involved with you light.

That plus the incentive for finishing in the top 2 means I ship it and hope to add 600 to my stack putting me in 2nd spot

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Richard P


I fold due to presence of SB who can bust us.

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Tripps


Yeah, I really gave a lot of weight to the SB’s stack. No need to gamble in this spot.

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John Kugelman


The SB is just as afraid of us as we are of him. Definite raise.

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samo2


Voted fold. The SB is just as afraid, but I don’t want to risk of them waking-up with a Ax or Kx. There are 2 mini-stacks, so we are right there battling for 2nd.

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_CityBorn_


raise. this is easy money unless one of the blinds picks up a very strong hand. no one wants to tangle right now with utg being on the brink of elimination and coming into the bb next hand.

even if you get called, we’re still doing ok againt a big part of that range (the ace + bway combos)

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alekhine11


@ Zargon

Spot on.

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alekhine11


@ Richard.

Man you certainly need to revise your strategy.You keep making the same mistakes all the time.

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Richard P


Thing for me is it’s not a normal satty bubble so it would be correct for SB playing for top two spots to look us up with say top 10% hands and therefore around one time in say 13 (would have some equity when called and win a few times two way- am assuming if SB called BB would fold to repeat the step) we would busto with nothing to show for our current stack size relative to the two dead stacks. I’d ship this all day after the re-entry bubble bursts though.

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John Kugelman


I am surprised. SnG Wiz puts this as a definite fold.

It’s only a shove if the SB and BB are both playing to cash and not to win. I had to set their calling ranges at an absurdly low 10% each to make this a push–that’s 55+, ATs+, A8o+. The SB only calling with the top 10% of hands is reasonable if a bit tight, but the BB being that tight is unrealistic.

If the SB is as “loose” as top 15% instead of 10%, though, this becomes a fold. Or if the BB has a more reasonable calling range of top 30% (any pair, any Ace, most Kings and broadways) then it is also a fold, even with a tight SB.

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Jeff


That’s an interesting SnG Wiz result for sure.

I shove here almost ATC, but especially w/ connectors. The staff commented on how conservative the shorts could play trying to outlast each other, the SB is going to be twice as conservative.

Imagine yourself in the SB. What kind of hands would you call down? Not many.

Plus, it’s a tournament! You’re going to need to accumulate chips at some point and to the aggressor go the spoils with the limited calling range of the SB and potential FE against the short trying to outlast the shorter.

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runefs


I’d raise but in contrast to most i’d make it a standard raise not shipping. Why, when that would normally commit me? for a number of reasons actually. A small raise might look like I actually would like customers, keeping SB out of the loop if he hasn’t got something. If SB woke up with a real hand he can reship and I can leave and outlast UTG and possibly BB. The one thing I’d hate to see is SB calling but I believe the chances of him calling a raise that looks strong than a ship are basically the same as him calling a shove. SB has got to be believing that the raise is committing us so the only thing we’re trying is getting a few more chips in before we ship. Hence calling the raise is play for he’s entire stack leaving him the same choice in both situations “to ship or not” but leaves us with a life jacket if we only raise 3x

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McCowish


Fold you madman lol.

The EV edge is what 100 chips assuming SB doesn’t call? Versus risking my whole stack against SB if he wakes up with a monster while BB or A are 1-2 hands from elimination I am guaranteed a re-entry if I don’t make it. I’m not even sure It’s +EV after you consider SB, plus the 5-10% chance of losing Tournament structure format–>definate fold.

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