February 10, 2012

Daily Hand Quiz

DailyHandQuiz

Game type: 100 Rebuy, PokerStars
Stage of tourney: Near bubble
Your image: TAG
Opponent’s image: Aggressive
Your hand: A♦J♦

The setup: You’ve been pretty tight and are sitting on a shrinking stack in this 100R tournament. 33 players remain, and the money begins at 27. You raised preflop last hand and the table folded to you; before that you had been pretty quiet.

This hand you get AJs UTG and make the same open. The table folds to the chip leader in the BB, who calls. The flop comes Q♣4♣4♦. The BB checks.

What’s your play?

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DHQ Staff says: I think this is a situation where being on the bubble should force you to be more timid instead of being more aggressive. Bubble aggression works when you can threaten an opponent with elimination or something close to it – in this case, it’s the BB who holds that power over you, and I think your c-bet is likely to be contested a very wide percentage of the time on this flop, as it will be very difficult for you to continue without a Q, overpair, or club draw.

Better to take the free card, possibly improve, and if not, exit the hand gracefully and preserve your stack so that you still have a legitimate three betting stack when the next blind increase hits and the presence of a closer bubble motivates some of the medium stacks to start opening up.

Quiz courtesy of Part Time Poker


15 COMMENTS  (Jump to comment form)

CIRCASURVIVE


Voted bet. first, your opponents range can basically be anything so the odds of him hitting arn’t great. He knows you’re a TAG player and that you’re not risking you’re low stack on junk. he’s got to believe an UTG raise nearing the bubble by a short stack has got to be strong, meaning he’s laying his wide range down a high percentage of the time here.

It depends if you want to WIN or CASH. I like giving myself the best chance to winning tourneys in this situation. If you want to just scrape into the money then try to double up a few times then check is the right optioon here.

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Richard P


If we check behind the aggressive BB will bet any turn and we will fold.

If we make a normal c bet the aggressive BB will likely reraise our ass and we will fold.

I vote ship it. We have a backdoor flushdraw and an overlay if BB hit his 3 outer with the Q. Everything else (obv apart from trip / quad 4s) will fold and we increase our stack by 25% FTW.

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Eric


I like a mixture of cbets and check behinds in this spot, something like 1:2.

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Eric


@Richard

???

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Rowdy


I go along with the Check/pray for ace/fold option – it’s all too easy for the big stack to take you off this hand with a reraise. I don’t think you can rely on your raise being from UTG scaring him…..he’s agressive and your raise the go before might have tarnished your image on this slightly too.

As for all in – WTF?!? Remember you’re getting paid more than normal for getting past the bubble as this is a rebuy…

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_CityBorn_


Im with staff on this one. He’s got too big a stack to mess with, check behind, hope to improve. Its not the worst thing in the world to lose a hand once in a while. If anything, the lack of c-bet here could add credibility to your next c-bet, or your next bluff in general, people will peg you as a straightforward player. Use whatever image you cultivate to help you in future hands…..dont cripple yourself in a bad spot here.

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samo2


Voted check. Up against the big stack, I don’t see pouring $ into the pot. Sure the hero’s image is TAG, but the BB calling range is wide enough to hold a Q or even a 4. A c-bet will likely be raised and a shove will not necessarily prompt a fold. After the call, BB would still have 81K to play. Hero has an M~15, so be prudent in this sitch.

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Richard P


@ Eric

If we check behind on the flop and miss our 6 outs and opp checks again what do we do? Bet 100% of time? If so then c betting the flop more often makes more sense to prevent a turn steal that we have to fold to. Check again? If so and we miss again then the aggressive BB will surely take the pot from us; not a disastrous outcome but a real weak line.

If we c bet we put out around 15% of our remaining stack in the middle and then are forced to fold (more likely the winning hand) if get action.

I’m not seriously advocating the shove, just that I don’t like either of the standard options and that being called by Q9 and hitting runner runner dims would be fun.

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joan of ark


@ CIRCASURVIVE

spot on

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Eric


@Richard

What range of hands are we folding to a bet that we can also shove into? We fold out mostly worse hands and get called by better. Mostly the only better hands we fold out are small pairs which make up a small part of villains range. Shoving 4x pot on a stone cold bluff is rarely good poker.

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Richard P


@ Eric

Again I’m not personally advocating the shove (I would most likely check in this spot) and massively overbetting is not generally great poker for sure but it does have it’s place, and a paired flop with 25% stack gain in middle as preflop raiser isn’t a bad spot to go crazy.

Where I’m coming from is that I think AJ is more likely than not the best hand but a normal bet has no value as won’t get a better hand to fold (as you say) but will get a worse hand to bluff raise which is far more likely. So believing that and playing the percentages that it is very unlikely that the BB has a Q or 4 it’s not so crazy if playing FTW to try and pick up the pot right now.

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dick


a lot of the time AJ has value here. the BB would probably call with an ace to defend on the flop, or he’ll call with the club draw. and if the BB is aggressive, he may even come over the top with these types of hands. i would be willing to get it all in on the flop if the BB does reraise.

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alekhine11


I agree with staff,but you knew beforehand who was iN the BB and the most likely outcome.(being called or reraised,and missing the flop).

So if you took the risk or going for the hand UTG and not get reshoved(which is pretty good)but you now refrain for a CB,what is certain, is that the hand is no longer yours.

I do not see any harm in a CB of about 4000 which let you in a bad position regarding chips amount;but around 10% of the time I think BB might fold .If he doesn´t give up , play those 27k chips but pick better your spots,anyone but player D or the BB.

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jskeen23


I like the cbet here personally if your not going to continue your aggression there is no point in raising with aj utg. You know going in to the hand the bb is likely to defend at best or worse you get three betted from another spot and half to fold. You also know that you going to miss the flop about 2/3 of the time so why raise utg with ace jack and not cbet. All in all I say you put your boys in there now protect them and if he moves on you fold, and if he calls shut it down.

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McCowish


This is about the worst flop for a hand like ours. Check and don’t get picked off.

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