Daily Hand Quiz

Voted fold. Aligned with the staff, hero’s stack is comfy so let the smaller stacks battle. While the downside is only ~20% of your stack, why risk losing that cushion. SB will likely shove now or on the next hand.

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Again, a pretty standard spot for a satellite. If you can fold your way into a seat, there is no reason to get involved in these spots.

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I say pad your stack and go for a knockout, bringing us closer to sealing the deal. We’re still fine if we lose, but we’re golden if we win. Less players to bust, and a cruise control stack. We probably have the best hand here, make use of it.

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why not… the stacks of the CO and the blinds are small enough that losing this pot won’t hurt. And even if both blinds come into the pot, in which case they’d have to both have overpairs or AK, it only costs an extra ~300.

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Fold your way to the prize. I wouldn’t play another hand in this tourney no matter what the cards are.

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I know the prize. Call anyway. You are ahead right now. Call and see if you can knock out a player or two. You still have the rest of the table covered if you call and lose except for one player. Wouldn’t it be a great fold if you folded and flopped set. Be a man. Take a chance. Bet the farm and don’t look back.

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Satellite bubble strategy does dictate being a man. Fold and sit out.

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…does *not* dictate…

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To those who say fold and cruise to the win….

Consider: we have 8 M….and if we keep folding, we’ll quickly have less, while the other players shift chips around. Even if a shortstack or two gets knocked…we need SIX out of 34 (a pretty large percentage) to leave the field. How is that going to happen if players with big stacks who can afford to take hits, dont call wide-range all ins from shortstacks when they have hands as strong as pocket 8′s?

With that kind of stratgey, we get drained while they pick up large chunks in the blinds and antes. Even if a couple get knocked, that probably just made the remaining shorties not so short. and we’ve weakened ourselves down to middle of the pack or worse.

I completely disagree with the assessment that we can fold and cruise to the win with 6 players still to knockout and an M of 8. We need to contribute to the shortening of the field while we have the stack and the cards to do so.

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Well put CityBorn. I completely disagree also. Be a man and take a chance. Gamble on them eights to knock out a player or more. Folding good pairs to short stack shoves “does not” dictate good tournament strategy. I think it is weak.

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Calling of 20% with 88 right here I dont like for two reasons.
1. The structure is that of survival, if this was a tourney with heavy payouts for top spots I say stick in a raise and gamble, but this isnt.
2. If you call and lose this pot your m of 8 just shrunk to 6 and if you win its going to be a ten. You have more to lose by shrinking to a 6 than to gain by it being a ten.
Be patient in these spots ive won more by doing this than I have when I go into lets see who has balls mode.

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Fold. Within 2 orbits there are 4 stacks at your table that will be allin or busting from the blinds. And that’s just at your table.

That would also make 4 other tables with a load of people that have an M=2 or less.

Don’t call anything, you will give up way to much value if you lose. You have 64 hands until you blind out. Most players will be fighting within the next 24 hands.

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Fold, Tournament Structure makes it not worthwhile to gamble where top 28 of 34 get same prize and you have a large chip lead over field. when blind increase,E, SB, BB, A will all be in imminent blinding off and at least 2 players at your table, from stack distribution suggests over 8 people will be exiting the tournament in short order. Note: Examine the stack sizes at the other tables to make sure there are a bunch of shorties throughout the tournies, then just fold to victory.

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jskeen23, I like the eloquence of your reasonin gon your 2nd point.

cityborn, your analysis is analgous to knowing the point on a decreasing curve in the first quadrant, then drawing a tangent line to find it’s slope, then drawing a line and dropping a perpendicular to the x-axis and saying, “Look at time t where we will be if we continue with this strategy!”.

Combined with the idealist’s group dynamic

What if everyone with a large stack just sat out and refused to play? Then all the big stacks would bleed and the short stacks would rise!

That’s what I feel like underlies your reasoning. Why it doesn’t play out that way in real life is due to a combination of the following

1) The positions of many other players at your same time are on at least a vertical downward shift of your curve and they will hit the axis with horizontal axis well before we do.

2) Not everyone considers tournament structure as seriously as it should be considered.

3) Unless you tell them you don’t intend to play a handor hit the “sitting out” button on the screen, your fold has other possible interpretations, some of which are far more common namely, “I have crap”, and thus they assume life is continuing somewhat normally or are unable to distinguish between the player who is sitting there but mentally sitting out and a legitimate opponent. The have too few hands before they go broke to have an adequate sample size for a frequency analysis to mathematically determine between the 2 either likely.

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@ McCowish

Beautiful.

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why can’t we iso shove? maybe im just a lagtard, but im trying to make chips and this seems like a decent enough gamble. stop being nits, make some moves. you know he’s gonna turn over a7 suited anyway

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